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Are Immigrants Racist?

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Boaz's one man jihad against Islam bears absolutely no resemblance to Mosely's anti-Jewish diatribes of the 1930s. I know this because Boazy reckons he doesn't wear a brown shirt or jackboots.

Oh hang on - that's the same Boaz who delights in posting untrue and unsubstantiated bulldust in this forum in order to try and rouse the rabble to his odious causes.

On the topic, I've noticed that some of the most racist sentiments that I encounter in my daily life emanate from immigrants who experienced the 'rough end of the stick' when they first arrived in Oz. To address Leigh's question, I think the form of this kind of racism is something they learned here, rather than something they brought with them
Posted by CJ Morgan, Friday, 19 January 2007 8:48:18 AM
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Jolanda,

You are entitled to hold you own beliefs but that doesn't make them right. Criminals can have their own beliefs also.

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Leigh wrote.

You say: "It seems as though some people can't stand the fact that they have racist attitudes.Some wonder why some immigrants don t want any kind of association with them".

What on earth is that supposed to mean?

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A racist hates to be call a racist even when its obvious.

It means there are also immigrants who fear living around close minded people.

Who are the "some people"? Who has adjudged these people to have racist attitudes

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Racist people.

Those who feel they have been discriminated against.
Posted by Amel, Friday, 19 January 2007 9:04:02 AM
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Ranier,

I don’t see anything in the post that you have resurrected that is in conflict with my belief in equality for aborigines.

A small minority of people, white or black, should not be indulged in any shenanigans disproportionate to their numbers. That’s democracy. I have said the same thing about other minorities who demand special treatment, or who have it demanded for them by politically driven agitators.

Most Australians are no more interested in aborigines than they are in other minorities. It’s the nature of the beast.

Aborigines do have the same rights as everybody else under law, and the problems of modern aboriginal life, for some, are self-inflicted. There is absolutely no need for anyone in Australia to live the way some aborigines choose to live. If they do choose to live differently from the rest of us, then they must cope in their own way.

The aboriginal people the public DOES NOT hear about – including you - are proof that you don’t need to be a loser because of aboriginality. There are many, many indigenous people, like you, who have managed to keep contact with their roots but who are living and working successfully in wider society with great success.

While there are individuals from all sections of the population who need help and should get it, the politicisation of aboriginal “causes” has only created more divisions and has achieved nothing in real terms. It has also created people – so-called leaders of the community and ignorant whites - who are unpleasant and aggressive, and who have added to the alienation, suspicion – and yes, boredom – which has seen absolutely no progress or improvements for anyone.

Amel,

You seem to bear a grudge. I suspect that you think that you have been subjected to racism and so Australians are racist.

Other people are not necessarily racist just because you think that you have been discriminated against. Perhaps it’s your attitudes to others.

People you call racist probably couldn’t care less. It’s a silly word used to hide the inadequacies of those who use it.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 19 January 2007 10:06:34 AM
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Leigh, I do think that there is still an issue for many aboriginal people in getting past the very real disadvantages of the past. It's my impression that the formal discrimination has been removed (although the dry community thing does raise some interesting issues) but that the informal issues still make it much harder.

Some genuine racism (from both sides) combined with environmental factors which create a vicious cycle for aboriginal people wanting to create better outcomes.

The ongoing issues faced by indiginous people across the world are not simple or easily solved. There is history which is not easily put aside but which in my view continues to poison the minds of indigenous people against their own opportunities and there are still enough people who let their racism impact on their actions to perpetuate stereotypes on both sides.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Friday, 19 January 2007 10:37:33 AM
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Leigh,

Just because I speak out against negative people doesn't mean I have a problem. I'm not overly suspicious of anyone or have paranoia,even though some of the comments here are abit shocking.Its probably because I'm not use to hearing people say theres nothing wrong with racism etc.
Posted by Amel, Friday, 19 January 2007 11:11:53 AM
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"People you call racist probably couldn’t care less. It’s a silly word used to hide the inadequacies of those who use it."

Leigh, you've called a number of people racist yourself. Are we to assume then, that you also fit into the above category?

Heh, reading that sentence again, it just makes no sense. You're basically saying the word never has any accurate or valid use. Pretty ridiculous really. Ahahah you even use it in the title of this thread!

Think before you press 'post'!
Posted by spendocrat, Friday, 19 January 2007 11:16:42 AM
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