Leigh, explain to me how this post (by your good self)
is not indicative of treating Aboriginal people and issue as less than others?

If equal means the same outcomes and you believe in equality please explain the logic behind this assertion.

"Right on, Hasbeen. 3% of the population should really be allowed to cause only 3% of the fuss and bother. Apart from activists and people paid to make a fuss, most Austalians are not the slightest bit interested in them.

You have the right attitude. The aboriginal minority and it's self-inflicted problems have really become THE most boring subject on OLO"

Posted by Leigh, Thursday, 28 December 2006 7:38:30 PM

Leigh, I have to agree with you, a bludger is a bludger, no matter where he lives or what colour his skin is. Few that have lived in country towns are under any illusions that the bad "whites" are any better than the bad "blacks".

Rainier, I wasnt trying to use my aunt to justify my position - simply to make sure YOU knew that there are white people out there, still alive, that speak one or more native languages. She's not the only one I know, but mentioned her because I knew what language she spoke. Shame on you to knock someone who devote a large portion of her life to aboriginal health in remote communities.

You seem to despise the society that you live in. Hell, it aint perfect thats for sure, but it could be an awful lot worse. You sound like you are doing fairly well for yourself, so a society that let you get ahead cant be all bad. I assume you had to work fairly hard to do so - if thats the case then dont be so arrogant as to think that you are the only person to do so, or that it isnt just as hard for someone from a disadvantaged white background as it is for someone from a disadvantaged black background. On the other hand, if hard work didnt get you where you are, then stop whinging!

Country Gal,
Theres nothing worse than a black fella with a chip on his shoulder. Rainier get over yourself, Id hate to be one of your white students. Your views are as racist as anything written here.
You are very typical and remember always your more white than your black, I bet that gets right up your kyber dont it?

GOODBYE

Am I finally getting through to you Boaz?

>>[10Teams](Its a Pericles free zone :)<<

That guilty grin again, like a schoolboy hiding his peashooter after pinging the maths teacher.

Again, but as ever in vain I suspect, I urge you to read about your predecessor-in-interest, Oswald Mosley. And to understand him in this context:

That he believed very strongly (very, very strongly) that he was right. That any intelligent, patriotic adult would see the problem in the same way that he did. That the formation of groups to "protect our way of life" was the natural right - nay, duty - of every right-thinking man. That to defend one's position against physical threats was the only honourable thing to do.

History sees it a little differently. His "enemies within" were normal human beings going about their daily business. His followers were largely drawn from the ranks of the man-in-the-street who were self-selected on the basis of being unable to rationalise the problems for themselves, looking to Mosley for the answers instead. The groups he formed quickly turned from defensive to aggressive, using only the flimsiest excuse to strong-arm their opponents

Placard politics may provide you personally with a warm glow, but it can so very quickly get out of hand. So please, learn from history, and back off from your rabble-rousing habits. Start reading up on those bits of your religion that talk about living together in harmony, and stop trawling through ancient books in order to find stones to chuck at your religious opponents.

Finally, may I gently remind you of one of Mosley's more infamous utterings:

"We will not tolerate within the State a minority organized against the interests of the State. Jews must either put the interests of Britain before the interests of Jewry or they will be deported from Britain."

Substitute the words "Muslims", "Islam" and "Australia" for "Jews", "Jewry" and "Britain" in the above statement, and you have Boaz-ism, complete and unadorned.

Does this ring any bells Boaz? Or do you see Mosley as a vastly misunderstood person, with everyone's best interests at heart?

Is anyone else getting tired of trying to keep up with like five different threads at the moment, all of them on basically the same racism/immigration/multiculturalism topic? The comments on them are basically interchangable....

Rainer, in my view equality is more about the opportunities rather than the outcomes. Even that has some significant issues as family circumstances make a massive difference, people living in remote communities will have a different set of opportunities to those in urban areas - some better some worse. The Packers children are more likely to end up as company directors than mine (but my son will get some freedoms theirs will never have).

It becomes discrimination when the opportunities are different because of what should be an irrelevant factor (skin tone for example). There is some validity to using outcomes across large numbers of people to determine if there is equality of opportunity.

In doing so we have to find way of allowing for other factors - cultural factors which impact on the use opportunity is put to.

We should also be helping the current generation get past the impacts on their environment of inequality experienced by their parents.

A free society can never guarantee equality of outcomes, we should be working towards evening up access to opportunity as much as possible.

R0bert