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Are Immigrants Racist?
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Posted by Rainier, Friday, 26 January 2007 12:22:05 PM
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Amel “Col Rouge, when migrants come to live in a different country they bring apart of themselves. I know that doesn't mean they should try to dominate or make life harder for others, but thats what make some cultures and religions different to each other “
Amel, I am a immigrant myself. I have lived more of my life in a different country, in fact 2 different countries. That cultures and religions are different is as obvious as a nose on a face. My closing comment to the post you responded to was “Non-Muslims are not responsible for the deficiencies of Muslims or Muslims community Leaders, Muslims are.” Get this, I know what it is like to arrive in a new country and have to settle in. I found my acceptance within the greater community including finding work and a home to live in was enhanced by listening to what people who already lived her had to say and me not preaching to them on how they should live. The problem which the Muslim community have is due to the practice of some of the Muslim community leaders to make public statements which denigrate the values of the non-Muslim Majority. If Muslims want to live in peaceful co-existence with non-Muslims, the solution is simple. Muslims must deal with the religious bigots who claim to be Muslim leaders or find somewhere else to migrate to. As out Federal Treasurer suggested, Emigrate to somewhere which shares similar values to those of the Muslim community. Australia was forged on non-Muslim values which include tolerance to race, religion and creed. Australia does not need or want religious bigots with “cultural and religious differences” who cannot or do not live up to those "non-Muslim" moral values of "tolerance" to migrate to or settle in Australia. Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 26 January 2007 12:47:46 PM
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Jolanda thinks she is "a real Australian", but her admitted support for racism suggests she perfers to flaunt Australian values.
She believes "we should protect Australia and the Australian way of life" yet she proposes its OK to subvert our laws. She proposes that we should harm Australians and Australia by condoning racism, which she naively describes as non-violent. She's worry about other people fulfilling their "obligations" and how "they don’t care who they hurt or how it affects others." But her obligation is to obey the law, which includes the Racial Discrimination Act. Jolanda breaks this law in every post. This law is designed to protect people from being unlawfully hurt by others. Jolanda fails to recognise Australia is a democracy. Yet, she only wants to impose her own hateful prejudices upon us. She wants to tar everyone with the same brush. She does not want to give people a fair go. Listening to Jolanda is like listening to a criminal trying to justify their crimes against society. "What about MY rights?" they selfishly cry! Australia is not a dictatorship with a self-appointed fanatics making paranoid statements about law-abiding men, women and children. It is a wonderful democracy and parliament makes the laws. The parliament has rightly declared that racial discrimination is unlawful in this just and free country. This law is fully supported by the people. Response to Kartiya Jim: I support medical services and good health for all Australians, and the current situtation is unacceptable. There is a legacy of bad and racist policy which has contributed to this. Those are now completely rejected, so we must now overcome the practical obsticles to universal good health whereever they exist. Posted by David Latimer, Friday, 26 January 2007 2:51:47 PM
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Just visited the Taj Mahal.
Entry Fees : Indian Citizen. R50/- Non-Indian. R750/- Is this racial discrimination? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 26 January 2007 5:07:58 PM
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Rainier,
-- WHY THE MOCKING TONE? -- [1] "Oliver, the Treaty of Waitangi was in 1840." [So?] I knew that date, at least, approximately. Living in China, now. I didn't want to drop my link checking the spelling, as an earthquake has damaged an undersea cable and the Internet is unstable, here. That is why didn’t name the Treaty. Spelling. Are you lampooning me about my mention of the 70s? I think so. Note, The Treaty of Waitangi was not RATIFIED until 1972. Didn’t provide a date, too busy to check. The 70s, was best from memory. The 1972 date is mentioned in the document: http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/delbil06.htm [2] "Are you really doing Phd studies in this area?" Nope. Undergrad. in psych. & economics, two masters in business and a PhD. Several academic and national awards. The PhD has nothing at all to do with law, treaties or aborigines. My interest is in how cultural antecedents influence knowledge discovery. More relevant, I do have a sound knowledge [published] of the operation of civilisations [including, under occupation], and, clans (internationally), and, acculturation and, the development of science and technology in history (especially, East/West). Beyond that, I wish to stay anonymous. [3] No point wasting my time, here. Rainier, given your sad attitude, my heading [3] says it all. I wanted to share some knowledge of how disenfranchised Diaspora and Clans can manage their way towards a better life, when occupied by an overwhelming power. Obviously, this is not the place, to make histographically tethered recommendations, which have worked in the past histories. Don't want some lessons known, based on six thousand years of invasions and subjugations across twenty-plus civilisations? That is your call, Rainier. [4] What you need to know about yourself. I little less wit and a lot more listening would serve you well Posted by Oliver, Friday, 26 January 2007 6:37:02 PM
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Epilogue:
All, Discussed and ratified in intent in the 70s. The "actual" Treaty had major issues, with the meaning "sovereignty", which didn't translate well linguistically back in 1839/1840. My understanding is the original Treaty didn't receive Royal Accent. [Even today, there are still on going issues.] Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975: [NOTE: 1975],[NOTE: 1975] http://www.onenzfoundation.co.nz/THE%20TREATY%20OF%20WAITANGI%20ACT%201975.htm Rainier, specifically, if, you are ever given the opportunity become a negotiator, lawyer or historian. Don't. [Bye.] Posted by Oliver, Friday, 26 January 2007 7:43:21 PM
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Are you really doing Phd studies in this area?