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Does Time Exist?

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oliver/quote..<<..it appears/common place/for us..to macro sized objects/like..the chair/and the keyboard.>>>to apear...and feel...as if a solid..'sub-stance'

BUT/we know its..all just affect...[the reality is/that we are feeling..the/AFFECT..of orbiting electrons/neutrons..wiZZing arround their atom/or atoms..etc

as...FEELING..solid...real...BUT/

yet/..the reality being..
there is a lot more/of nothing..
than there is..either atom or electron..etc

we feel affect...
reality/..thus only..'feels'..real...

relitivly speaking..even the feel...is via a few scatterd/sensory senders...sending/their messages..to the mind-collective..

that assumes..the affect/..as real...
but we dont/even know how..this collective..'feel's...let alone determines..that real/..from that sureal

<<Observation/also appears/to relate..to the means..of measurement.>>

but observation is only/one of our senses..[by what measure..do we percieve..that our senses..reveal/true...to be..'real'...

its all subjective..[by what constant measure?..is this/theory..more real/more valid..than that sence or measure..]

but by verifyable/faulsifyable..factual/confirmation and replication[repeatabilty]of constants/sureities

<<block/the passage..of photon..6% of the light/will come thorough.>>ahh..light being a particle...yet released by a specific event...thus a particle...AND a wave...

THUS/does not have..a single origin point

you raise/an interesting point...its said the/other..[aether realms/..lie a few degrees/off center..neither..directly up/or down

[an affect/noted in prayer...the elivation of eyes..induces..spiritual affects

<<the twin-paradox/at the speed/of light..is incomplete.>>just to..add

my thoughts...'light'..has many spectrums...does red/light..travel at the same speed..as the longer and shorter wavelengths..[is speed of light'/spectrums..constant..regardless of the wave-length's..that makes it up?]

<<there clocks/would run at different speeds,>>is a theory..[what affect weightless-ness on the timming mechanism]..

but this is/one of the destractions/..by which..the science godheads/..keep us amused...and destracted...

even/if we knew...what affect..it give us/..
is ONLY bound on earth

why not speculate/on the other theories...
that frighten so many
DEATH WHERE IS THY STING..!

i would value your feedback/on the small read...the blue island/link oliver..[im half way through it..in only half an hours reading]...

there is/one timeless problem...
you lot/can resolve..in a few hours

..<<even after/they met again>>...in the next realm?

<<(probably a minority opinion)>>..yep...

but a short read/can solve my conundrum..
please read and critique..its not simply a minority..there

but is here..mainly because..we are so attatched to the/unsolvable riddles...or are afraid of knowing/..?

we are immortal...not im-mortal

fraid of knowing god=good..all living...all loving..
the real/underpinning real-ity..

the natural/under pinning the timeless nurture
..../this time..please read*/re-vieuw
http://www.new-birth.net/booklet/BlueIsland.pdf
Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 July 2010 10:33:12 AM
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Oliver,

I was definitely referring to our "macro-sizing" of the world around us. Our use of the time concept as a tool of thought enables us to rationally accommodate the sequence of movement and change that we encounter...perhaps...
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 19 July 2010 11:26:55 AM
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Piorot,

We surly see change. Do you remember the clothing window Rod Talyor (?) sees from his Time Machine. Also, the change of seasons for us. We also expereineca forward progession of time.

OUG,

In QM I think any of the sense would be valid to quaify as an observer, perhaps, even a blind ameoba.

The polarisation of light thing in my last postwas higher condensed and hard to present in a few hundred words.

Severin,

I think time stops as the speed of light. Space-time can be warped. Colour vision is added by rhodosin and various species has diferent rhodosin set-ups. We (and other primates) are trichomats (i.e. three hues). Loss say one hue of rhodosin of or diminished rhodosin leads to colour blindness. Interestingly, colour blind people can see sometimes though camaflage. I read once, turtiles have seven hues of rhodosin!
Posted by Oliver, Monday, 19 July 2010 12:18:20 PM
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Oliver,

"We surely see change...We also experience the forward progression of time."

Absolutely - time is what we call it when we experience the sequence of change...seasons, growing, etc...anything that alters.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 19 July 2010 2:05:30 PM
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Poirot,

What you report is psychological time which seems to flow forward and is experienced. Pychological times appears to be consistent with the increase in entropy in the universe. Physics sometimes explores alternatives.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 7:43:23 AM
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Oliver

I had actually meant to write 'does light ever stop?'

But one can posit the same question regards time. And I have enjoyed your response.

Time can be a sequence of events. If nothing changed; would a stasis mean no time at all? Is time a beginning and end, therefore an encompassing term for the inevitable entropy?

However space/time may be skewed by gravitational pull, such as the forces of a black hole? This means a sequence of events can be completely altered. Meaning at some point in time, when our own galaxy eats itself, I never existed or I may exist simultaneously in various event sequences.

UOG

Science is about asking questions and seeking answers such as we are doing in a very limited fashion on this forum. You present as knowing all the answers with your claims that science is a "con". That is quite a conceit on your part.

To all, I have always wanted to see the environment through the eyes of a raptor, such as an eagle, but would settle for a turtle.

:D
Posted by Severin, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 9:28:48 AM
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