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Mohammed, Muhammad, Mohammad, Muhammed

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I think Pericles is right.
Although it is shown on all the 'name' sites I looked at that Mohammed (or derivatives of the name)is the most popular first name in the world, it is surely true that almost all Muslim people name at least one of their children Mohammed?

Most other people of different religions and cultures have a somewhat larger number of name choices to choose from, leaving the name Mohammed as a large representative of a smaller number of families.

Proxy, this does not mean that the Muslims are going to take over the world, as is obviously your greatest fear?
I don't see what your problem with that would be anyway, since the Muslim religion is even more intolerant of homosexual behaviours than you are- if that is possible.
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 17 May 2010 6:57:09 PM
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They shot another 5 or 6 so called "terrorists" here in Indo the other day. Near Jakarta from memory. I didn't see that the ABC reported it, but as I have been otherwise occupied of late I may well have missed it.

The local news reports further allege that the so called "terrorist prime directive" appears to have altered slightly with Prez S.B.Y. and his supporters becoming primary targets above and beyond foreigners in their quest to achieve a hub in Indonesia for their pan Islamic super state.

Indonesian implementation of certain principals of "democracy" appear to have caused great offense in certain circles.

There is much more that could be said, but it remains "forbidden knowledge" for now, and without wishing to cause offense to those who are best afforded some degree of respect, will leave it at that.

My "tour of duty" in Indonesia is rapidly coming to end, and I yearn to rest in the earth of my home Australia.

A quick trip down in June, which I hope will be cold, bleak, windy and rainy, a quick alleviation of another 350mLs of blood and then just one more circuit, to hook up with my non-practising Islamic *Munchkin* girls and wooooooos! (touch wood the guvna being reasonable)down to Perth to re-settle.

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I noted with interest comments made by *Oliver* recently regarding *Pagans* and indeed I have met more than a few people here in Indonesia who whilst maintaining a God Concept, have long since abandoned any belief that Divine matters are administered by human intermediaries.
Posted by DreamOn, Monday, 17 May 2010 7:35:09 PM
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Look on the bright side.If you are a teacher and say,'Mohammad pay attention." It becomes ecnomies of scale.At least half the class will pay attention.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 17 May 2010 7:35:41 PM
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Come to think of it, in Australia the name Gough has never taken off. Wonder why ? Is it phonetically to close to Oaf perhaps ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 7:32:18 AM
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A question I've been pondering since +- 1990. Will Europe become Islamised? Will it become part of Dar-ul-Islam?

As Neils Bohr famously said, prediction is difficult, especially about the future. With that in mind let's look at the facts on the ground.

--The fertility rate of European natives is below replacement level. How far below varies from country to country.

--The fertility rate of Muslim migrants is above replacement level. How far above also remains a matter of controversy but no one questions that it is above replacement level.

--While the fertility of Muslim migrants does tend to fall with subsequent generations it tends to remain above that of the natives and mostly above replacement level.

--Most migrants to Europe are Muslim.

If these trends continue Europe will inevitably become a Muslim majority region.

Will they continue?

While the trends are not smooth - immigration rates for example vary from year to year - they do appear to be PERSISTENT.

Putting it all together I would say it's not a question of "if" but "when".

Of course what form the emerging Euro-Islam will take is a whole new debate.

One possibility is that people of Muslim origin become secularised. Thus far there is little evidence of this. If anything the trend is in the opposite direction.

In any case, Europe and Australia are global outliers as regards secularism. The enforced secularism of Communist countries aside, many, not all, societies appear to be getting more, not less, religious.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:29:03 AM
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I think you may need to brush up on your definition of "forbidden", Proxy.

>>It might also be noted, from the article, that Moroccan "Dutch" are already forbidden to give their children Christian names<<

Who is doing the "forbidding"?

It is certainly not the Dutch government.

And - also from the article - the "Moroccan Dutch" don't seem particularly impressed with the notion.

"MP Samira Bouchibti, a Moroccan national (by royal Moroccan decree) like all other Moroccans who moved to or were born in the Netherlands, is angry. "We must get rid of these lists of names and this interference. I want to be able to decide myself how I name my children. This is discriminatory."

So if there is no law against it, and the people to whom it applies reject it, what is your point in bringing it up here, 16,500 kms away?
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 10:56:22 AM
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