Proxy you ask

'How does this move reflect on the credibility of the United Nations? '

It is consistent with their Jew hating philosophy.

Bugsy

Correct, my error. Thank you.

It was but a simple question, Cornflower.

>>Pericles Well you won! You were streets ahead of anyone else in going for the ad hominem attack, you good thing. However you will have to pardon me if I don't follow you into that dark place and I don't think attacking me will convince anyone to your view.<<

Completely out of context, you asked "What about barbaric halal slaughter, not a problem?"

Since this has absolutely no relevance to the topic, I assumed your target had shifted from the status of women, to Muslims in general. Hence my question.

>>Are you sure you're not just having a whack-a-mozzie rant?<<

Not much of an "attack" - all you had to do was put me right on the halal bit.

Or perhaps you were feeling just the slightest bit embarrassed?

Pericles,

I think you should cut Cornflower some slack.

If Australia's most senior Islamic cleric (at the time) gets women mixed up with lumps of meat when justifying the rape of women who aren't properly attired in the Islamic manner...

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?"

...then we can forgive Cornflower for thinking that a discussion about women's rights under an Islamic watchdog might include other Islamic rituals relating to meat.

It does seem a bit oil to water but not so weird as one might think.

Couldn't one argue that it is better to drag less evolved (anti-female) cultures into the modern world by inclusion rather than exclusion.

Much can be learned and thus changed through education and exposure to another way of thinking.

Women's lot in Iran won't be changed unless we get them involved as partners in global affairs rather than always adversaries.

Proxy and runner another way to put it according to your faith:

"If anyone says, 'I love God', yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. BIBLE, I John 4:20

Pelican,
Please clarify.
Are you saying that if we don't love Ahmadinejad, St Peter will turn us back at the gates?