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Time for a new National Firearms Agreement

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Austin Powerless - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_culture#Gun_nut .

Alternatively, look in the mirror.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:22:12 PM
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While on the subject of PMs and governments throwing large sums of money around to promote themselves and redefine 'problems' as always being capable of being fixed with more laws and public bureaucracy, the Federal Climate Change Department and Tony Burke, the Minister for Population are good examples from the present.

After the four hundred public servants in the Federal Climate Department get their five hundred new computers (and more 'free' staff from the failed insulation scheme), the first priority will be finding a role for the department.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/money/money-matters/kevin-rudds-department-of-hot-air-costing-taxpayers-90m/story-fn3hskur-1225859701357

Like Howard before him, Rudd never has enough money for the fundamentals like health and education despite the earnest demand of taxpayers that these should be given first priority, but he always has the odd $90 million for a ministry to find 'problems' to regulate. Then there are the problems of his own making where he needs to cover his behind - overpopulation and sustainability - where another ministry is found to be 'necessary'.

Similarly, Howard had no money for mental health and like Labor before him, cast about for every excuse to sell off mental health assets and reduce the real value of annual allocations for that purpose. However he did have the odd billion for grandstanding buy-backs and redundant gun laws. Matthew Bryant has marginal IQ (he does not suffer from a mental illness) and his stress and dysfunction in dealing with ordinary life was well know to public authorities all of the way through his schooling and into his adult life.

Howard's fraud is that a Bryant can still buy illegal guns (criminals get plenty of new stock from overseas) and petrol as he did back then.

What if the odd billion or few that PMs like Howard are prepared to waste to get re-elected were directed into providing real support and counselling facilities in schools, or alternative education opportunities focussing on physical rather than mental accomplishment for the less gifted, and sheltered workshops where the daily social demands are not so daunting? The looney left and the far right might object out of idealism, but so what?
Posted by Cornflower, Thursday, 29 April 2010 12:56:06 PM
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I need a gun, because of a stupid local law, [council].

You see, my mother used to breed a few miniature horses, & I a few "proper" ones.

My little 20 acre block backs onto a 10,000 acre one, with just a little river, you can often step across, between them.

There are foxes, dingos, & some packs of rather large wild dogs roaming this & adjacent large properties. The wild dogs, in particular are capable of taking down quite large foals, & minis are just a snack for them.

Our council, which should know better, demands that all dogs must be locked up, where they are usless in protecting our stock. I don't know who they believe will lock up the wild dogs, which it probably could be argued, belong to them.

There are some foals, but many sheep, goats, & alpacas taken each year, but even those special gard dogs, breed & trained to think they are a sheep, must be locked up at night, when they are required. If we could just make the townies, & city people, who want the damn fool laws, responsible for the harm, it may help.

If they had to put down our maimed animals, & clean up the dead, we might get some sense. Meanwhile they wonder why many of us just ignore all the fool stuff that comes out of council, & government
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 29 April 2010 1:18:57 PM
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Hasbeen

What government does instead is tell you to lock up your dogs and then they drop a load of 1080. All approved by keyboard greens and so-called animal welfare people who are emotionally upset by the thought of farmers culling with a rifle, but are careful not to think about the poison remedy that government is forced to take instead.

The 1080 result is terrible lingering deaths and destruction of native wildlife as well as the ferals.

http://www.youtube.com/user/thewynman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m81afDNSS-4&NR=1
- a NZ example, but Australian State governments drop plenty of 1080 here too.

Alternatively, through its Game Council, NSW is successfully reducing targeted feral pests in gazetted forest areas, vastly reducing the cost to the taxpayer and providing a much needed boost to the economy of small country towns. That could restrict the use of 1080 to limited zones where absolutely necessary, which is very good news!

http://www.gamecouncil.nsw.gov.au/portal.asp?p=Chairman

As I have said before, I am not entirely opposed to 1080 for very confined uses, however 1080 is an easy way out for government (eg NSW govt and deer or Tas govt and wallaby) both in NZ and Australia where there are regular widespread drops.

A quick bullet from licensed hunters operating under a strict game conservation council framework would be a better solution and has been proved (NSW Game Council) to significantly reduce exotic animals. As a bonus, meat and furs can be used rather than left to rot in the field, poisoning wedge tail eagles and other predators through eating carcasses (1080 can kill up to four times over).
Posted by Cornflower, Thursday, 29 April 2010 2:14:39 PM
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CJ, StG

You are both wrong.

They're nuttier than psychotic squirrel on Ice.

Love "the right to defend one's self" against what? Charging rogue elephants, ET's anus obsessed rellies?
And every home should have a semi automatic .22 you never know when you might be confronted with a savage feral road sign. You need 6 shots at least to kill one of them.
I know other nutters with guns who don't agree with "them".

But in truth they do need changing .....made tougher!
Guns access to guns should be on a strictly *need basis*
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 29 April 2010 2:58:00 PM
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Examinator

Needs basis, huh?

Well Austin Powerless needs his compensator, OK?

ROFL - too funny.
Posted by Severin, Thursday, 29 April 2010 3:05:12 PM
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