suzeonline,

You have made CJ's day, there he is hiding behind your billowing skirts after having gone off both half-cocked and premature in this thread, an amazing feat even for CJ. From his efforts on OLO he was never more than a squib load though and as indicated by his last post, prone to backfire.

Good to see that you and the other desperates have got that insulting jokes routine down pat, even to the raspberry at the end (well done Dear!), but then you have done the routine in so many other threads it has become, well, very tired and worn. A new act please, that is if you can coax CJ from his um, place of repose.

ChrisPer,

A national meeting of police commissioners, with the Attorney-General's Dept doing the drafting is not the most democratic or effective way of doing things. The bikie laws (anti gang) were a result of a similar process at State level. More politicians promising that 'problems' (of their definition) can be solved by more laws and harsher punishment. More 'law and order' eh, folks?

I have written enough on this already and without going over old ground, I firmly believe the way forward is to concentrate on the goal of reducing violence and criminal behaviour. Focussing on firearms control is putting the cart before the horse. That has been done by Howard, billions have been wasted and nothing has been achieved. Put the same sort of money into the right goal (reducing violence and criminal behaviour), rely on evidence and see where it all leads.

In the interim, the State governments that administer firearms laws should look very closely at streamlining their systems to improve efficiency with a view to urgently releasing more police for active duty. To repeat for the bureaucrats, that doesn't mean keeping the bureaucratic mess and having civilians run parts of it, say through post offices because the overheads remain the same.

The other, equal urgency is to convert the paper-based system into an electronic one. It is really stupid and wasteful in this day and age that a dinosaur paper-based system was introduced and is still operating when it is so easy for (say) gunsmiths to direct enter data for customers. Reduces transcription errors and delays too.

Yes, I know that one State has made faltering, timid steps to put some minor bits on computer but hey, it is taking an eternity and it shouldn't.

I will leave it there.

Cornflower, I don't need a new act 'dear'.
Not if the current act annoys you. :-)
See you on another thread.

My my, these gun nuts get quite nasty when disagreed with, don't they? All the more reason to continue the current sensible restrictions on recreational access to deadly weapons, I reckon.

Cornflower to Suzeonline:

>> even to the raspberry at the end (well done Dear!) <<

Dear Cornflower, you need some help with emoticons, the following are "raspberry" emoticons.

:-P
:P
XP
:-p
:p
=p
:-Þ
:Þ
:-b
:b

Suze has been smiling at you, dear. If you can't even recognise a friendly smiling face, how can you be responsible with a firearm?

Now do you understand why people do not want gun licensing laws relaxed? Some people cannot identify friend from foe.

You don't have to thank me - always happy to help the less informed.

But Severin, sweetie, we already have the guns. We just want laws that do not include gratuitosu prejudice in their design.