Goodonya rechtub, put the boot in while they are down.
But special thanks to RABBOTT, he wants to export our unemployed to WA.
His mouth not even close to being connected to his brain has again even got his side of side.
Yesterdays breakfast in Pennant hills in Sydney came with a girlish splatter from the headset wearing fool a man, that almost made the food uneatable.
Rabbott imports workers, wants to export ours and has concerns about boat people?

Antiseptic
The whole tone of this thread has been a bashing of the unemployed and other welfare recipients. The very title infers a vast army of work shy bludgers "hiding" from their responsibilities and evading the centrelink gestapo.
A few more examples.
"those deliberately on long term dole"
"a cohort who are wilfully welfare-dependent"
"many people on the dole aren't trying to find jobs."

The gender issue is not relevant to what TAbbot wants to do and I was not referring to that part of the thread.

The ongoing vilification of the poorest and weakest members of our society by those who are well off and pampered makes me sick. It has never been part of the Australian culture before and those dog whistling bigots that have encouraged this vicious bullying of the poor should be run out of office and strung up as the treasonous unaustralian scum they are.

Mikk, I've been back over the thread again and I really don't understand what you're talking about. There is group of young people who are on the dole by preference, I'm sure: to suggest otherwise is simply silly. No one seems to be suggesting that all young people are on the dole because they want to be, despite your rather hysterical allegations. Still, having made your "motherhood statement" I'm sure you'll get more approbation from the less intellectually endowed members of the site, as you have already.

Abbott's scheme isn't really about the intentionally unemployed though, is it? Do you really think that mining companies want a mob of "bludgers" being foisted on them? What they want is motivated, somewhat trained people to do the arduous work that they require. I'm sure that most young men would like the opportunity to earn big money too, but not enough to leave their friends and families and sources of entertainment. Abbott's scheme is designed to act as a wedge to get young people out of their "rut" and into work at remote sites. I don't think the particular implementation is especially good, but the intent has merit.

The reason this is a gender issue is twofold: firstly, what the mining companies want is men, and secondly, youth unemployment is increasingly a male problem due to the factors I've mentioned earlier.

The ABS shows that 87000 males between 15 and 24 are looking for full-time work, while 60,000 females are doing so. A significant reason is that there are a great deal more young women doing tertiary study than young men, mostly due to the concentration on female educational attainment over the past several decades leaving a large group of boys with educations that simply don't stack up next to their female competition.

To put it into perspective, there are nearly 50% more young men who want work and can't get it than young women in the same boat.

Any scheme that fails to recognise that disparity will only further entrench the disadvantage of young men, especially young men from poor families.

Abbott is just playing into the 'dole bludger' mindset.

When I worked in the recruitment field many 'welfare cheats' were actually working cash under the table while receiving benefits. This is what should be addressed not ill-thought out policies forcing long term unemployed into jobs for which they are not trained - many who are also drug abusers or have some form of disability.

From my experience, many people over 55 find great difficulty in finding work many willing to try new things. They certainly do not want to sit around in preference to working if someone would just give them a chance. And for all the lip service about employing people with disabilities the government's own record on employing disabled workers has fallen.

Long term unemployment has risen in the US despite a stricter regime and cut-off points for benefits. This only adds to the homeless problems and crime rates.

Dole bludging, although a problem, is way less a burden on taxpayers than incompetent bureaucrats & the nepotism that ensures we never run short of them. I know many including myself who have lost or had to change employment because the ranks felt threatened when I & others started questioning questionable behaviour.
i also quite a number who are highly skilled in avoiding work & are not challenged by those in authority.
Being unemployed is not good for society as a whole, be it by choice or misfortune. If the authorities had any competence there would not be unemployment.

It seems there are many misconceptions floating about regarding- working at a mine, unemployed people, regional living conditions, and the Australian economy... Mines use drug and alcohol testing which indicates cannabis use within the previous 12 weeks. Mines are busy and dangerous places which isnt condusive to running as a minding centre. There are many reasons WHY people are on welfare, but these are usually ignored (the CSA for example). The disability support pension is a much bigger rort, most also work for cash. Many young people wouldnt handle the isolation, rates of depression and suicide are already higher in rural areas. Two little words sum up this cynical vote/headline grabbing enterprise, Epic Fail.