*I could just as easily, and do, maintain that many, various and beautiful young women having promiscuous sex with me is the most noble thing of all.*

Indeed you could Peter, for morality is of course nothing more
then our subjective opinion. As could your wife, if she screwed the
milkman, to spread the risk of you having dud genes. In evolutionary
terms those things make sense, for nature does not really care
about morality, simply survival of the fittest and those that
adapt.

We already know that you are the body that dna uses, to pass itself
on from one generation to the next. Sounds to me like you are the
perfect slave of your dna, as you try to spread your genes around :)

Peter Hume, "especially when we consider the difference of interests as between male and female".

Men also have a vested interest in their progeny surviving and doing well. The stereotypical male who is forever ready and bangs everything with a heartbeat then departs is a myth. Sure some are feral but some women act like alley cats on heat too.

Society's 'randy' stereotype of men victimises them, putting them under pressure to perform and be responsible for the chase, seduction and even the orgasm of the female. It also detracts from their credibility as caring fathers, with a vested interest in the care and wellbeing of their children.

Life has often shown me that contrary to what some might like us to believe, men rather enjoy being surrounded by family and they are very hurt and grieve enormously if that is suddenly taken away from them for any reason. I am sure too that men are not hard-wired to require a leadership or controlling role in a family and the vast majority are generally willing to go along with what the women want. Again, that might be petrol for some but it shouldn't be.

I do believe Cornflower has written a post with which I agree:

>> Men also have a vested interest in their progeny surviving and doing well. <<

Exactly.

I tend to believe that serial monogamy is a natural strategy for humans. In the past, when our lives were shorter - relationships were often till death did part. In fact my own parents were separated when my father died. However, we have long lives, not all of us change in the same direction in the course of our lives - remaining with the same partner is wonderful but not necessarily the right thing for everyone.

Quite happy to play the field when single, but I have always been faithful when in a relationship. Works for me - but not for everyone.

However, for the majority of humans, raising children with two adults is far easier and generally more stable for the kids. The adults may or may not be the biological parents or even heterosexual - it is the love and stability that matters.

severin,
"The adults may or may not be the biological parents or even heterosexual - it is the love and stability that matters."
Children also need male and female role models.
How is a boy going to grow up normal if he is raised by two homosexual men?
At least he'll have plenty of male role models, with an ongoing stream of "uncles" visiting his two daddies.
Give us a break.

Proxy

How come 'normal' heterosexual parents frequently have homosexual children?

It is the quality not the gender that is important in the caring and upbringing of children. But in your narrow homophobic world, you will never understand.

severin,

Consider this:

"My biggest concern is that children are not being discussed in this same-sex marriage debate. Yet, won't the next step for some gay activists be to ask for legal adoption of children if same-sex marriage is legalized? I have considered some of the potential physical and psychological health risks for children raised in this situation. I was at high risk of exposure to contagious STDs due to sexual molestation, my father's high-risk sexual behaviors, and multiple partners. Even when my father was in what looked like monogamous relationships, he continued cruising for anonymous sex.

I came to deeply care for, love and compassionately understand my dad. He shared his life regrets with me. Unfortunately, my father, as a child, was sexually and physically abused by older males. Due to this, he lived with depression, control issues, anger outbursts, suicidal tendencies, and sexual compulsions. He tried to fulfill his legitimate needs for his father's affirmation, affection and attention with transient and promiscuous relationships. He and his partners were exposed to various contagious STD's as they traveled across North America. My father's (ex)partners, whom I had deep caring feelings for and associated with, had drastically shortened lives due to suicide, contracting HIV or Aids. Sadly, my father died of AIDS in 1991.

Are my childhood experiences unique? According to a growing number of personal testimonies, experts, and organizations, there is mounting evidence of strong commonalities to my personal experiences. Not only do children do best with both a mother and a father in a lifelong marriage bond, children need responsible monogamous parents who have no extramarital sexual partners. Parental promiscuity, abuse and divorce are not good for children. If same-sex marriage is legalized, a person, couple or group who practice any form of sexual behavior would eventually be able to obtain children through previous heterosexual relationships, new reproductive technologies, and adoption due to the undefined term sexual orientation. This would force all public and private adoption agencies to hand over children into experimental relationships or risk charges of discrimination."

http://www.dawnstefanowicz.com/dawntest.htm

She must be an ignorant homophobe, by your measure.