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Barack Obama 42% ,Ron Paul 41%. Rassmussan Poll

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Pericles ,Ron Paul is a catalyst for change.He does believe in freedom,the Constituition and true democracy, so if people disagree they can change it.

Presently we live in an oligarchy in which the corporates have bought out our Govts.You only have to look locally here to see the corportate influence.We have sold off our Govt income earning assets to pay for debt which should never have existed.

Our own RBA can create our currency without borrowing from China.We have borrowed $ billions in stimulus money that has been wasted on school projects costing 4 times more than they should.Only big companies get to tender so the money goes to the big end of town to inflate share and property prices.The local communities miss out.

So the RBA increases rates to soak up this inflationary money and the worker gets taxed to pay for the loan.We are paying thrice.Firstly for the interest on inflationary money to China,then on the depreciation of our currency due to it's diluting our currency and yet again on our own mortgages.It is a corporate rort.Rudd was pannicked into this by the RBA into stimulus.All he had to do was keep rates low.

The Corporate elites control both he Democrates and Republicans via the Federal Reserve.Ron Paul and a few others are standing up to this corporate facism which are pushing for wars and loss of civil liberties.

Peter Hume,I agree with your observations.Only a fool or those who benefit by this rapacious oligarchy would want to see it prosper. Our system is very corrupt.

Without freedom we cannot have creativity and thus our society will enter a new dark age.Pericles and Yabby are dinosaurs with beaker frog syndrome.They have yet to realise that the temperature of fiat money will cook them.I like that,"frog dinosaurs".The former is a lower form of evolution still alive,very stupid and the latter a higher form,that specialised too much in size,just like Globalisation.

Perhaps Pericles/Yabby focus to much on the monetary side which in reality should be a result of productivity,not the cause.The tail is wagging the dog.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 6:50:26 PM
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*Pericles and Yabby are dinosaurs with beaker frog syndrome.They have yet to realise that the temperature of fiat money will cook them.*

Deary me Arjay, sounds like you have lots of sleepless nights ahead
of you, worrying about all this! Fair enough, whatever floats
your boat.

Luckily I will never have your worries, for I have a different
relationship to money then you have. For me its purely a means
to an end and not an end in itself. Unlike you I don't worship
money, so I sleep very soundly indeed.

People today are as free as they have ever been. They are free to
trade globally, free to borrow when they need to, free to be as
productive as they choose to want to be. Some make the most of
these incredible opportunities, others hardly know they exist,
others spend their life complaining about the system and blame
it for their failures.

If you are failing Arjay, forget the system, look in the mirror.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 8:54:35 PM
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Yabby.Is that the best ad hominen argument you can muster from the depths of your ignorance?
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 8:08:28 AM
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Oh no Arjay, that was hardly an ad hominem, more like a bit of
good advice!

I find your delusions highly amusing, which is why I read them.
But I also have a bit of a hobby in neuroscience, so am always
curious as to why people like yourself, runner, richie and others,
float off on their little clouds.

But your posts in general have given me the impression of somebody
who once was doing very well, not so well anymore. So you are
lashing out, looking for something/someone to blame. Its a
human foible, few ever have the honesty too examine themselves.
Its easier to go into denial.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 8:43:36 AM
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You may have at least half a point, Arjay.

>>Pericles ,Ron Paul is a catalyst for change.<<

Ron Paul was probably the single most influential godfather of the Tea Party movement, for example. And his son, Rand, will probably get a good run at politics by hanging onto his coattails.

He does articulate, in broad terms, some of the difficulties of managing a massive deficit, and the dangers of printing too much paper money.

Certainly, the concern shown by the average voter on the manner in which the US is facing up to the massive shift in the global financial power-base, could well manifest itself through a form of protest vote. And the Ron Paul publicity machine will undoubtedly be front-and-centre in any such activity.

What it doesn't change, however, is the fact that the vast majority of Paul's proposed solutions, particularly those on debt and the medium of value exchange, are based on false premises.

So while he may be a highly active part of the problem - in the sense that he magnifies the issues to the point, almost, of caricature - he most certainly will not emerge as part of the solution.

Because there is no silver bullet here. It's all down to plain slog, shoring up the economy that overblew itself on debt, and a "live now, pay later" lifestyle.

We've had the "live now". That's in the past.

It's only natural that this is now the "later" that we all knew had to come.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 9:25:22 AM
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Ron Paul's debt solutions based on false premises? What are they?
The FED must go.That ideal I passionately share with RP. It is the influentially corrupt organisation on the planet,with it's tentacles right throughout the corporate world.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 22 April 2010 5:47:44 PM
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