If we all advised our current crop of dim-witted politicians (all brands) that we would vote only for those who put a population policy in place which would gradually reduce our population to its sustainable level of about 13 million, there would no need for a discussion of this kind.

I'm not a member of any political party, but I agree with Nick Ferrett's response. The ALP, particularly under Beazley, is more interested in 'selling' its policies to the electorate than it is in listening to what the electorate wants in the way of policies.
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 20 March 2006 11:27:40 AM

for this part CG well said i did very much like this part as i found an understanding but not leighs.Country Girl i do see where you are comming from and as being originaly from orange it is good to see that this is happening out there.
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The libs and nationals usually do not compete, because where-ever one party holds the seat, the other is unlikely to get in anyway. And so what - they might as well be one and the same most of the time.

Actually the party-line thing serves as great amusement, when watching someone like Peter Garrett get interviewed over party policies that conflict with his own views. Now thats comedy!
No CG you are right about that
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Now leigh you may have not noticed but have answers questions maybe you should open your eyes but here is a piece of Cols

from Col The success of Democracy is to govern but not to impose a common objective on everyone.

Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.
One should also look at the gay and lesbian community as they have also been imposed on.
So this would be deemed as a type of dictorship.
Also re platforms and where do i stand read Cols and you will find that i am no goose just reply with comment.

Tapp I noticed you are starting to repeat your statements. I know I occasionally quite deliberately quote myself but concerning your last two posts

Re
9 January 2007 10:37:47 AM
“Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.”

And again

9 January 2007 6:21:06 PM
“Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.”

And actually I am still trying to work out what the first

“Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern”

And

“Now leigh you may have not noticed but have answers questions maybe you should open your eyes but here is a piece of Cols”

Please Translate

Are you taking English language lessons from MichaelK?

It seems to me running off with phrases like “If we all advised our current crop of dim-witted politicians..”

should you manage to get elected, based on your abuse of English, you would be indistinguishable from the other “dim-witted politicians”.

Country Girl “We do have a democracy, just not the text-book definition of.”

I agree with you. We do have a democracy.

A democracy does not come from a text book. Democracy is a practical and organic system of pragmatic government which respond to prevailing circumstances and most important of all, the desires of the electorate.

The great thing with a democracy is that it is not fixed, like dictatorships and communism were fixed and unyielding. A democracy can change and will only change by the will of the people (constitutional referendums). OK some folk, like Tapp, are negative about it but they have to learn that since they are the minority, their support for democracy means they are required accept that “their view will not prevail” because “it is not the majority view”.

Tapp “IS AUSTRALIAN POLITICS REALLY DEMOCRATIC OR JUST A DICTATORSHIP”

“Australia is a democracy”
You have failed to convince us to your minority view

Tapp “IS AUSTRALIAN POLITICS REALLY DEMOCRATIC OR JUST A DICTATORSHIP”

Well Col you still havnt conviced me that the australian people believe you.
Oh another thing maybe you should re read some of those phrases which you would find is your mates Leigh.

I had asked the question on what i have heard, seen and what people say.

Well Col regards to this

9 January 2007 6:21:06 PM
“Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.”

And actually I am still trying to work out what the first

“Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern”

This was repeated due to the inability of leigh to understand why this was written due to this statement of yours.

9 January 2007 6:21:06 PM
“Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Also the gay and lesbian community
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.”

The success of Democracy is to govern but not to impose a common objective on everyone.

So by this statement of yours you havnt convinced me or those within these communities that it is not a dictatorship.

Tapp the point with your statement ““Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern””

It is unintelligible, it has no reasoned meaning because you have written it in the “style” of Michaelk , in other words devoid of the normal rules of English grammar.

Oh and its origin. YOUR POST. No one elses. Now if you expect to stand any serious chance of getting elected, I suggest you get someone else to proof read your publicity material, pamphlets and speeches or you will be deep in the doggie doo.

“So by this statement of yours you havnt convinced me or those within these communities that it is not a dictatorship. “

I don’t think you know how well or otherwise your or my view is regarded here at the forum.

As for my view, I seek no public office for which I need to impress anyone, if people choose to think similarly to me, that is up to them.

My future is not staked on the success or otherwise of a political circus which, by all appearances is lacking the vital role of ring master

Tapp,

The first paragraph was actually posted on Tues. 9th January 2007, NOT on Mon. 20th March as you state.

What other incorrect information are you spreading, one wonders.

Did you get the second wrong, too? I don’t remember posting that one.

However, I know about the first post you reproduced, and while I cannot remember the second, it does sound like me. But, what is the point of displaying them? Neither has any relevance to your ratty ravings. If you think that my contempt for Australia’s current political gangs opens the way for your rubbish, you are more seriously deluded than I thought.

“Now leigh you may have not noticed but have answers questions maybe you should open your eyes but here is a piece of Cols”.

It’s no use asking you to explain what that gibberish means, or you wouldn’t have uttered it in the first place.

I think that the best thing I can do for you, Tapp, is to ignore your posts in the future. I truly sympathise with the condition you have which apparently makes you believe that you are talking sense

Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.”

And actually I am still trying to work out what the first

STATEMENT BY COL
The success of Democracy is to govern but not to impose a common objective on everyone.

TAPPS RESPONSE
Well we can see that the liberal party is not democratic as trying to impose anti abortion and religion on everyone.
Also the gay and lesbian community

THIS IS AN STATEMENT THAT WAS WRITTEN BY COL OR LEIGH IN ANOTHER ARTICLE WHICH I AM STILL TRYING TO RELOCATE FRO ANOTHER DISCUSSION
Then Iraq imposing democracy interesting or to govern.

So by this statement of yours you havnt convinced me or those within these communities that it is not a dictatorship.

LEIGH
You are still making some very wild statements. You a say that the “liberal (sic) party is not democratic as to imposing anti-abortian (sic) and religion on everyone”.

Absolute rubbish, and if you don’t know that, you have one hell of a cheek suggesting that the Australian Peoples’ Party (I think you call it) has anything to offer.

Even if your ridiculous claims were true, you still have the democratic right to vote for something more to your liking.

Hello Leigh obviously living in the world of Col and yourself.
You are right about one thing your statement of absolute rubbish is what you have written.
Ridiculous claim, not claims fact
Abortion,ru486
Gay and lesbian community

If you can say these people are not being dictated do and they are free as people to not be dictated to then abortion is ok
the gay and lesbian community are allowed to be married by whoever they chose.

I know that you cannot answer these as you know there is a dictatorship and as col has mentioned in other posts its only 2 minutes between

WELL COL AND LEIGH YOUR 2 MINUTES ARE UP