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Behind the Crime

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Psychiatrists, Prostitutes, Psychologists, resident Psychiatrists in every public hospital, Lifeline, Beyond Blue and HelpLines for males are available for perpetrators of murders and/or sex crimes.

However, for well over 20 years it has been my belief that a government funded group of medical professionals should be set up to counsel 'would be sex offendors' and more importantly, 'people who acknowledge their mental illness or psychopathic tendency to take another's life as a result of their negative upbringing/environment as a child'. Many of these people do in fact acknowledge their negative childhood as the reason for their mental illness.

I suggested this concept at one point to a govt body after losing a neighbour of mine however it was disregarded.
Posted by we are unique, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:10:12 AM
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Well I have been called racist, red neck and lefty socialist dreamer,because of my views on Aboriginal and the poor lifestyles.
Yes I know, I have said it before, but I did come up hard and hungry, my dad worked himself to death at 54, he was no bludger, but we 16 of us ate pumpkin and potato for tea and the skins for breakfast.
We however had it easy, our parents loved us, went without even food so we could eat.
In saying you are what you make your self can you think what it is like to live among drunks? to not know if tonight you will have a visitor to your bed.
To know if you do not go to school few will care.
If you learn nothing it will not matter.
Or do people understand 14 year old Aboriginal kids go to prison or a boys home because they say it is better than home.
Do not talk to me of bludging, of welfare lifestyles.
Or stolen generations,
I had opportunity's and parents who drove me and my siblings to achieve even from such a start, no baggage came with me, I had a chance some will never have.
The sentence will be regarded as racist,,yet it is true,a whole village is condemning its next generation to life such as the thread starter one.
Drugs is the only industry they know, yes 4 year olds are given the bongs and by the age of ten?
Look behind the problem, see the hopelessness of it but change it please
TAPP I see a snide inference to those in my party who molested children in your post, maybe I am wrong but you have in the past inferred I am one if those get help mate talk to your doctor.
I without fear say ANY person who harms a child that way is not a human being, anyone who can find in such pain a weapon to flog others? you think about that bloke.
yes I should never have answered you addressed me knowing it was unwanted.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 February 2010 6:34:14 AM
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Well Belly
you did start this thread

So since you have referred to those instances

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I without fear say ANY person who harms a child that way is not a human being
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so how can one support a party that does these things.
members who do not stand up and let it happen

Those who in their ultimate wisdom attack others when a truthful response is required.

How can a person post such things without conscience knowingly know that these things are still occuring and yes they could do something.

This i would have to say is not just labor or the unions but all parties.

How do you justify these actions and still manage to vote for these inhumans.
Posted by tapp, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:21:21 AM
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All but Belly,seemed have missed the point. StG was correct when he said life is about choices but what he didn't say was those choices are determined by Available options and conditions more often than not out of the control of the individual. Sadly this young man was a point in fact he was doomed by forces conditions and lack of options beyond his control.

The question I ask is where does victimhood start and end?

Neither am I suggesting there is no such a thing as personal responsibility. However, we can make smooth/remove obstacles, improve options and conditions. His problems are or were potentially surmountable all it would take was *timely* and *appropriate* help, not further vilification/victimization.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 25 February 2010 11:52:58 AM
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This thread deserved much better.
We are talking about human beings.
Some I have known in my job some in my life.
I wanted to say we should leave the rubbish behind, including bleeding hearted fools who think it is just a problem whites made therefore should fix.
It is my strong view both sides have blood on their hands, real human blood.
I am sick of failure and excuses for it.
I have seen it too often, no one gets more true joy out of a success than me.
The current government scheme to employ Aboriginal youth is mostly, over whelming failing.
Yet in the hands of Aboriginals in the NT it works.
My words are not lies, the dreadful truth is tonight young kids, male and female will be raped.
I would like to stay, to try to stay on track, even develop the thread into one that looks for new ways to get it right.
Most know I will probably not stay, I should turn the other cheek.
But will until I die fight such as TAPP.
To use these horrible events we talk of as a club to club me in every thread is,,,,,,think about those kids to night the horror that comes and the day years away they too may look for a way to end such pain.
The blame? all of us share it culture? what part of that growing culture should be kept?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 25 February 2010 4:17:24 PM
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I for once find myself agreeing with Belly after seeing first hand much of what he says. Unfortunately as long as we suck up to the UN and deny the abhorrent cultural practices still in place more and more kids are going to suffer and die. There has been a number of cases where kids were rescued into loving homes only to be sent back to abusive cultures. Any one with half a brain can see that having 5 or 6 year old kids roaming streets at 2am is the result of neglect at best. IN most Regional towns parents if white kids would be charged for this kind of neglect.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 25 February 2010 5:26:54 PM
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