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Garrett, Gillard and Rudd have been foiled

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Hi all,
I'm in denial and I'm not alone.
Internet refs 5,7 & 19 ought to be read above all others.

4. Some notes on sea level change, esp referring to southern Australia
Prof R.M. (Bob) Carter. James Cook University
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/RMC%20-%20aspects%20of%20sea-level%20rise%20in%20southern%20Australia%20Z.pdf

5. Surface Temperature Records: Policy Driven Deception
SPPI Original Paper By Joseph D’Aleo & Anthony Watts, Jan 27, 2010
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/policy_driven_deception.html

7. There is no scientific merit to IPCC AR4 Chapter 9.
By Dr Andrew Lacis, NASA GISS
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/09/hansen-colleague-rejected-ipcc-ar4-es-as-having-no-scientific-merit-but-what-does-ipcc-do/

8. US Surface temperature findings questioned.
By Anthony Watts.
http://www.heartland.org/books/PDFs/SurfaceStations.pdf

9. The World may not be warming.
By Dan Weil
http://www.icecap.us/]

10 The Climate Science Isn’t Settled
By Richard S. Lindzen, Wall Street Journal, Dec. 1
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748703939404574567423917025400.html#mod=todays_us_opinion

11. The End of the IPCC
By S. Fred Singer, American Thinker, Feb 10, 2010
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_end_of_the_ipcc.html

12 How Wikipedia was “doctored”. What level of trust can this source document have since its alteration?
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/18/lawrence-solomon-wikipedia-s-climate-doctor.aspx

14. After Climategate, Pachaurigate and Glaciergate: Amazongate
By James Delingpole, Jan 25, 2010
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100023598/after-climategate-pachaurigate-and-glaciergate-amazongate

15. Russia affected by Climategate
Comments in Russian Newspapers
RIANOVOSTI, Dec 16,
http://en.rian.ru/papers/20091216/157260660.html

16. To Denmark, From Russia, With Lies
Investors Business Daily, Dec 18
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=515789

17. Another claim, African crop failure, is disintegrating.
By Christopher Booker.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7231386/African-crops-yield-another-catastrophe-for-the-IPCC.html

18. The hottest hoax in the world. A perspective from the Sub Continent.
By Ninad D Sheth.
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/international/the-hottest-hoax-in-the-world

19 Climategate. Emails examination in detail.
By Dr John P. Costella
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/reprint/climategate_analysis.html
Dr Costella believed in AGW and the IPCC. His sceptical wife encouraged him to analyse the Climategate emails to see if he would change his mind
Posted by phoenix94, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 10:45:03 AM
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If you don't quite get it yet .....Ask yourself this question
Why is Labor being taken to task for implementation of a really good idea ?
Answer : Because good ideas are not enough. Because Labor reactionaries across the country don't take seriuosly the HOW questions on sustainability. Its not the ideas, but the successful implemenattion of those ideas that keeps leaders in power .

Any idiot can have a good idea , but only Wong , Garrett and others with a limited practical bent are happy to allow people with very limited experience to advise them on how to implement an improved environment program.
http://designwithnature.blogspot.com
Posted by Hanrahan, Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:27:25 PM
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Foxy,
Last time I read about it, the bottom had fallen out of carbon at the Chicargo exchange and the european trading scheme was riddled with scams. Given the track record of this government running things, one would be pretty game to buy carbon credits here.

It seems now that the Pacific Islands, and the Maldives, where the sea is 'rising', are not Islands at all but Atolls. Which means they have no firm foundation and their bases are coral. Apparently they are subject to subsidence from time to time. That answers why there is no dramatic sea level rises elswhere.

It also appears that the, so called, Islander that made the teary and emotional speech to the Copenhagen delegates, pleading to save 'his home', is actually an Aussie and lives at Queanbeyan. His wife refused to answer when asked if he had ever been to the island.

Distortion and exageration seems normal for AGW advocates.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 1 March 2010 10:36:00 PM
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As I understand it, one of the major problems for atolls (especially) and small islands generally is contamination of the water supplies due to ingress of sea water into the typical lenticular aquifers that underlie these islands. Even if that doesn't happen, drawing down the aquifer can lead to subsidence and loss of capacity.

One of my colleagues in a previous life was heavily involved with surveying the water supplies of many such islands in the 80s and he was very pessimistic indeed.
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 7:33:50 AM
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Thanks Banjo . Its no fun watching sound concerns for the complex matters of conservation being eroded by people who go off half cocked and don't study the matters properly.http://designwithnature.blogspot.com The greens are erdoding their political base by trying to be spokesman for things that require great precision and sound practical politics .
If I was Wong or Rudd , I would want a few green heads to roll, and not just into another new empire .(Atols are also notoriusly unstable due to their geological roots )
Posted by Hanrahan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 9:46:37 AM
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