I opened this thread accidently and am amazed. Fluoridation does not interest me, but how did it evolve into debate on male circumcission.

A few years back there was one poster here that had an absolute phobia about circumcission and he would turn ANY debate into one on circumcission. I've forgotten his name but he would butt into any thread and try to turn the disscussion to his favourate subject. I suggested to him many times to start his own thread but to no avail.

I got to the point of posting to warn others not to reply to his posts because he would turn the debate. Wonder where he is now?

He would love this, especially with the expanded posting limitations.

Celivia,

The information I have is that circumcision increases the sensitivity, as the area with the greatest sexual sensitivity is no no longer covered.

As per the link you posted with regards pain, if circumcision is to be done, the first few days has the least pain (almost only discomfort) compared to considerable pain later in life. So the call for the boy to decide later in life is like asking for 12 month waiting period for abortion.

Considering that the procedure done in a hospital by a specialist has almost zero risk, and slightly more pain than a vaccination, there are no grounds for banning it what so ever.

As I mentioned before, I have yet to hear of any circumcised man wanting to be uncircumcised. Just as women are resentful of men weighing in on abortion issues, so women are not equipped for debate on this issue.

Female circumcision is a completely different matter all together.

mjpb,

They have a saying in NZ; 'World famous in NZ'.

An appendix can cause trouble and it is less useful than a foreskin. I think it would be best to get rid of it at birth.

'are you aware of any research that indicates that removing the appendix will protect against a number of medical conditions?'

It will protect against appendicitis.

Banjo,

It was James. Hence my query earlier, where is James?

SM,

'I have yet to hear of any circumcised man wanting to be uncircumcised.'
Oh, there's people who have attempted to re-grow the foreskin.

'Just as women are resentful of men weighing in on abortion issues, so women are not equipped for debate on this issue.'

Rubbish. To both claims. Men have a right to have a say about abortion, it is half their child after all. Women have a say on their child when it comes to circumcision.

'Female circumcision is a completely different matter all together.'
Well, as practised in some countries. But I reckon the outer labia has the same function as the foreskin; Keeping dirt away and protecting the sensitive area of the genitals. Nobody would consider cutting the outer labia off as a routing procedure.

Seriously man, why do you want to cut bits off people? People are born with moles, which can become melanoma, should we cut all the moles off at birth?

Houellebecq,

What a pile of purile examples.

It is actually recommended that moles are inspected and dangerous ones removed,
The appendix while posing a small threat requires major abdominal surgery to remove,
A woman does not require any input or approval from a man to have an abortion. A man can express an opinion, but it is just that.

'A woman does not require any input or approval from a man to have an abortion. A man can express an opinion, but it is just that.'

Yes, a man has a right to a say. To express an opinion, as I said. As Celivia has a right to express an opinion. Doubly so if it is her son.

While a man cant make a woman have an abortion or not have an abortion, a mother has just as much right as the father to decide on circumcision.

Your secret mens business crap doesn't wash.

'The appendix while posing a small threat requires major abdominal surgery to remove'

Better to be safe than sorry is the rationale for routine circumcision. A 'small threat'? People have died from a ruptured appendix, much more likely than for problems with their penis.