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David f

It's not only Marxists who have difficulty with the implications of evolution. Most people on the Left seem to have a problem.

Belly,

I don't think it correct to say that "Christianity now believes in evolution."

Rather it seems that the LEADERSHIPS of many Churches – including the Catholic and Anglican Churches – accept the reality of evolution.

LAY PEOPLE are another matter. I know many Catholic and Anglican lay people who vehemently reject evolution.

I also know Baptists who, notwithstanding the official position of their church, believe in evolution.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 14 February 2010 10:19:32 AM
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Dear stevenlmeyer,

I disagree that most people on the left have difficulty with the implications of evolution. I agree that some people do. I think the fact is that most people, whatever their political persuasions are, are ignorant of the sociobiological implications of evolution. Of course both right and left are elastic terms. What are your definitions of right and left?
Posted by david f, Sunday, 14 February 2010 10:43:02 AM
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Sigh.... I just wish that Intelligent Design was consigned to bin of deliberate artifice and not continue to be taught as legitimate in our schools.

For all of Graham's claims that the majority of Christians see the bible as allegory rather than literal; our politicians, schools, legal system and so forth continue to be distorted by a significant minority who believe in Genesis and other myths.

As for atheists not cognisant with the theory of evolution, WTF? Stevenlmeyer, what are the statistics on your claim? While I am certain there exists a curmudgeonly knot of disaffected atheists, I posit that their numbers are negligible to the point of zero impact.
Posted by Severin, Sunday, 14 February 2010 10:48:31 AM
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Steven, I've been very familiar with the debates around sociobiology and biological determinism since the early 1980s. I'm sure you'd classify me as of the 'Left'.

However, I have no idea which "implications of evolution" you're suggesting I "have a problem" with. Please elucidate.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 12:25:56 PM
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So what's the connection, stevenl? Why do you believe that those you describe as 'left' have a problem with evolution?
I would guess many people would describe me as being a bit left; I'm certainly not a (economic) libertarian, and I certainly don't have a problem with evolution, or the the scientific (Popper) method.
I would describe myself as a de facto atheist. I don't believe God is impossible; to the contrary, I believe an evolved God (or Gods) to be an inevitable consequence of evolution. I refuse to believe, however, in a personal God who plays favourites, and -like the Holy Men in the parable of the Good Samaritan- spending all His time crossing the road; ignoring the suffering of billions for the sake of a handful.
If such a God could be proven to exist, I still wouldn't worship Him.
Posted by Grim, Sunday, 14 February 2010 12:44:33 PM
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Those who are concerned about the teaching of "intelligent design" to Queensland schoolkids might gain some consolation from the fact that they are apparently also being simultaneously and surreptitiously brainwashed into "evolutionism" via the widespread use of Apple Macintosh computers in schools:

<< The real operating system hiding under the newest version of the Macintosh operating system (MacOS X) is called... Darwin! That's right, new Macs are based on Darwinism! While they currently don't advertise this fact to consumers, it is well known among the computer elite, who are mostly Atheists and Pagans. Furthermore, the Darwin OS is released under an "Open Source" license, which is just another name for Communism. They try to hide all of this under a facade of shiny, "lickable" buttons, but the truth has finally come out: Apple Computers promote Godless Darwinism and Communism.

But is this really such a shock? Lets look for a moment at Apple Computers. Founded by long haired hippies, this company has consistently supported 60's counter-cultural "values". But there are even darker undertones to this company than most are aware of. Consider the name of the company and its logo: an apple with a bite taken out of it. This is clearly a reference to the Fall, when Adam and Eve were tempted with an apple by the serpent. It is now Apple Computers offering us temptation, thereby aligning themselves with the forces of darkness. >>

http://objectiveministries.org/creation/propaganda.html#APPLE
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 12:45:38 PM
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