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Christianity and evolution

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Dan S de Merengue< "Suze, you’ve made the statement. Can you back it up? Who believed the world was flat in those times (or any other times)?"

Pericles gave you a few examples Dan. Here are a few more:
Job 38:13 NIV) "...that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?"

Does our spherical earth have 'edges' Dan?

(Prov 8:26-27 NRSV)"...when he had not yet made earth and fields, or the world’s first bits of soil. When he established the heavens, I was there, when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,"

A circle is a flat round object. Apparently the ancient Hebrews also had a word for sphere or ball that was used in the bible, so why wasn't this word used to describe the Earth if those writers 'knew' about how God 'made' the earth?

(Job 11:9 NRSV) "Its measure is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea."
This sounds like they were describing an entity with a length, rather than a circumference, right?

Philo <" There was preexisting life before Adam just that to Adam it seemed he was the only living human after the catastrophe."

What? Are you joking or what?
Posted by suzeonline, Thursday, 18 February 2010 1:13:36 AM
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I have a question.
We debate Christianity often, two active threads now.
Christianity is one of many reildgions, why just them.
Islam must have views on this subject.
I firmly thing the thread is evidence Christianity has evolved,and continues to do so.
Just as we did/do
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 18 February 2010 6:18:52 AM
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Belly,
The Kor'an has generally copied the Catholic text of the 7th Century and in detail believes in a literal 6 day Creation.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 18 February 2010 7:09:40 AM
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During the history covered by the Bible there is evidence of brain development; as at the beginning there were few words in a single language and communication between men seemed to happened in a psychic or telepathic mode. Written language happened in simple phrases. By the time of building of the tower in Babel there was confict in language and this project was abandoned (Gen 11). Though before Babel the arts, musical instruments, and iron tools had been created.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 18 February 2010 7:25:02 AM
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Still no defence by stevenlmeyer of his preposterous claim that

<< THE PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO HAVE THE GREATEST PROBLEM WITH EVOLUTION ARE ATHEIST LEFTIES >>

Unusual for him to be so reticent, particularly when he made the claim so strongly and subsequently repeated it in this thread:

<< In my experience the people who have the greatest difficulties with evolution are Lefties who purport to be atheists. They find the IMPLICATIONS of human evolution hard to accept. >>

<< It's not only Marxists who have difficulty with the implications of evolution. Most people on the Left seem to have a problem. >>

I guess he must have realised what indefensible bulldust he'd written and decided to let it go.

<< If you are not disturbed by what we now know about human evolution then you don’t understand the problem >>

I get the distinct impression that stevenlmeyer doesn't understand Darwinian evolution himself.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Thursday, 18 February 2010 7:26:25 AM
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Suzeonline, thanks for your response.

Circumferences and diameters are measures of length, aren’t they?

And how would anyone draw a sphere on the face of something?

Job 38 is talking about the morning light spreading over the earth at dawn. So yes, when daylight spreads over the earth, the divide between day and night has an edge.

Generally, while we are thankful for the increase in technology brought by our accumulated knowledge, it is wrong for us modern people to assume that the ancients were stupid or ignorant. Many ancient civilisations used some advanced technology. For example, we wonder how the pyramids were so well built to stand for these thousands of years.

The idea that the ancients thought the world was flat is a post enlightenment fiction invented to make us moderns feel better about ourselves.
Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Thursday, 18 February 2010 9:34:20 AM
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