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Racial violence in Melbourne? or just plain violence?
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Posted by aurum_philosophorum, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 1:38:25 PM
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Violence happens against everyone from every ancestral background. I'd be interested to know if Indians are disproportionately featured in crimes stats. I doubt it.
Posted by StG, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 3:35:56 PM
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Here's a paper I found that sorta backs up my thoughts on it.
http://proceedings.com.au/isana2009/PDF/paper_Spolc.pdf Posted by StG, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 3:47:15 PM
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Dear AP,
According to one website there have been 100 reported cases of attacks on Indians (mostly students) in Melbourne in 2009, as against 17 in 2008. This has resulted in the Victorian Premier announcing the appointment of Australia's first "Minister for Respect," (I'm not kidding). Former football player - Justin Madden has been appointed to the job. The Victorian Premier said this was part of a "broader response to the scourge of alcohol fuelled violence and vandalism." The Premier claims that the new Minister will be an additional voice in the community promoting diversity and racial tolerance, including providing educational and Law and Order approaches. It all sounds like PC gone a bit mad. However - as I've stated on another thread - it may appease the Indian newspapers and media. Will it make Victoria a safer place? I doubt it. More and - better trained police might help. As might a review of the licensing laws and hours of opening of clubs, hotels, and so on, and more severe penalties for loutish, drunken behaviour. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 6:00:14 PM
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I am truly surprised any one could ask the question.
You can bet some of it is racist some just violence and some who carry out the crimes are idiots. Yes Indians are targeted not every time, some attacks have been Indian on Indian. Some Lebanese vs Indians, more religion than racist. But some thugs would think targeting others is a worth while thing, and that racism is linked to knuckle dragger's, fools with nothing better to do. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 7:18:15 PM
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with a 15Billion dollar a year international education factory here it really seems we need to invest some of these profits into Domestic education at pre, primary and high school levels. I don't remember being taught ethics, morality or respect and interest in our neighbors fascinating and highly respectable cultures. Sure they had a religion class every now and then that was as fantastical as a fairy tail to me plus they taught us Indonesian (language) purely to prepare us for the great economic trade potential we thought we were going to have.
Violence against ANYONE is wrong. whether it be Indian v's Indian or Lebanese v's Australian. What is the problem is that someone or groups of individuals would actually want to hit someone until they are unconscious and then continue hitting them or stab them and walk away laughing or believing they have done someone proud. It's unfathomable. Ha. Justin Madden as Minister For Respect That is a good one. I'm not sure about Madden's past but by golly, professional football players are not the role models my children will be encouraged to look up to. What about Ben Cousins for Minister of responsible drinking and recreational drug abuse Posted by aurum_philosophorum, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 8:23:17 PM
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I have been bashed in the city on my way home from work for no apparent reason. without even making eye contact with those who hit me off my bike and surrounded me kicking and punching me until i was able to escape. I have seen people being bashed, and i have learnt to get the hell out of the CBD as fast as possible and to ignore the taunts and provocations (which happen almost 100% of the time, from car windows, street corners etc).
It is disgusting and shameful. The 2am lockouts made it worse, liquor licensing is favoring large, generic fight club, drinking centered night clubs.
I'm 32 and 4th generation Australian of Irish french, Scandinavian background. And i'm disgusted with my city's behavior.”