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$3000 bonus to go bush

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Ludwig,Hasbeen, rehctub and ilk.

Interesting to note that the conservative voters are all hot and bothered too....Yet not a week ago some of the same posters were kicking up wild about the inability of land rich widows being unable to subdivide.

Note the contradiction? Who else is going to buy the newly subdivided land but.......more people. Perhaps subdividing for new people is ok only when they do it. After all those houses would be exclusively for those currently living in ...um boxes?

And to add injury to insult, cry Madam Bligh down when she cancels conservative engineered mass development land. Pray tell what do you think that does if not limit population growth? In accordance with Ludwig's suggestions. You lot can't have it both ways. Credit where credit's due.

Conservative have to either stick with business as usual i.e. endless growth or support her steps to depopulate the SE . Sure more could be done but what other options are being presented by the conservative side?

Unless it's all viewed from a selfish or party dogma prisms.
In which case discussion is irrelevant it's simply an anti Labor rant.
Negativity for the sake of negativity.
Posted by examinator, Thursday, 19 November 2009 7:15:17 PM
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Examinator, that last post is beneath you. It is a disgusting bit of spin.

You know damn well that my post was about elderly folk being able to live out their lives in the homes where they have raised their kids, & shared their lives, without being attacked, to strip them of a few bob of pension. The last thing they want is the worry, & hassel of subdivision, even if it were possible.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:47:34 PM
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examinator
I run a small business and have done for 20+ years.

Now I have made some mistakes over my time and, I have paid dearly for them out of my own pocket. However, if anyone in business made as many errors or resided over as many 'stuff ups' as these fools they would have been broke long ago. And guess what, We Are broke! But, nobody is accountable.

At best she can hope and pray that those on the other side can't get their act together and, at worst, she may well topple at the next election.

Either way, she will have most likely teed up a lucritive job in the private sector, as seems to be the trend in politcs lately,

BUT! She will walk away, having placed out state in it's worst financial possition in modern history and not hav contributed ONE RED CENT towards the mess. She will still be a very wealthy woman.

Now my comment on council amalgamations. How will these now stretched bodies cope with any further workload associated with re-directing population to the bush?

One more point. I have always felt that if a person resides in the same house for over 10 years, then their rates should be capped. Rates, not services!

As for the 10ht, let them live out their life and they will pay tax when they are gone.

Even if one subdevides the remaining 8ht they have to pay tax.

It is simply another 'money grab' by a 'cash strapped' government that has wasted many opportunities and billion of dollars along the way. And that, is un-deniable!
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 20 November 2009 7:52:56 AM
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Apart from moving state government operation centres I think the incentive should go to retirees to move away. The immigration is required to pay for the baby boomer retirement so they should make room in job centres for the incoming. So the state government (and Federal) should look at where the best regional health centres are, or the easiest to upgrade and build both low cost and rather fancy communities for people that will not depend on work availability. perhaps the government could pay an extra $20 a week in pensions in regional areas to cover the higher costs of food and petrol.
Posted by TheMissus, Friday, 20 November 2009 1:35:50 PM
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Sorry Missus, that tends not to work.

A mate of mine was a real estate agent at Burrum Heads, a lovely spot, between Maryborough & Bundaberg. He reckoned he sold most of the houses about once every 4 years. This was due to retirees buying in, then selling out.

The driving to the main centers became a problem, but the main one was support. Just when they started to need to call on their support network, of family & friends, they had moved 400 to 1400 Km from that network.

Yes there is public funded help available, to some extent, but this is less available the further you are from suburbia, but it was the moral support, during illness, that sent most of them back home.

Most of these people had holidayed at Burrum Heads for some years, & thought retirement living was going to be a longer holiday. For a very large number, the dream did not work.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 20 November 2009 3:59:53 PM
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Hasbeen,
If subdivision wasn't an issue why raise it then? Just to grizzle at Labor governments plural perhaps?

So if I understand you correctly You want your ladies to live on a property too big for them to physically manage .
Make a capital gain for the benefit of their children, grand children.
And also have the tax payer to pay in the mean time.
Odds on when capital gains are charged all and sundry will complain. What's wrong with this picture? Answer Reality!

Rehctub
According to your posts from the first to now
You were the 'average' bloke who was taking home $35 k with a tribe of children.

Now you're a you are a 'small' business. With sufficient cash to buy your children 'decent cars' , have 10 htrs and hoses for them. Last time I looked horses were expensive to keep properly, with feed supplement shoeing, vet bills, tackles etc. One can assume you have super, investments etc.

Good for you!
Doesn't sound too average to me though.

Now your problem is capital gains. Ok, you may consider your property as super but it was your choice to enter into land speculation so who's problem is that?

I paid capital gains too but what the hell that's the law and I was contributing to society. I just didn't make as much as I hoped I would ….That's the risk you take for the big bucks.

BTW ; Anna Bligh didn't blow the money I seemed to remember a WFC perhaps you missed it but it hit a lot of people....it was created by greedy entrepreneurs in the US.

Your self interests is tending to blind you to reality.
A. the conservatives want business as unrestricted as usual new WFC
B. Would have the same laws .

NB I have no problem with differences between peoples wealth but I do wish they'd appreciate what they have rather than what they don't have and why everybody else should pay.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 20 November 2009 6:44:46 PM
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