Yes Ruddy had been totally defeated by 74 illegals, with a dril. Wonders will never cease. Of course, he had to stop it now. Couldn't have them raining on his parade at the UN next month, could he, so capitulation it is. What a man!

So, what's that bright light I see in the sky? What is a neon sign doing up there? Hang a minute, it's a neon welcome mat. Thanks Ruddy, that just what we needed.

Now to pay for this wimps efforts. Well 56 housing commission houses, 25 million, resettlement grants, ship & crew costs, another 5 or so. Short term it will only cost 30 Million or so.

But hang on a bit, family reunion will add another 50 million to that. Gee Ruddy, if you really try, you could get this up to a neat $100,000,000 mate. Well done, all to save your face. What a pity you studdied chinese.

For those of you wondering how we'll pay for this mess, & all the others that will now follow the script, in these troubled times, don't worry, Our Kruddy has come up with an idea. I'll tell you about it, in another post.

Loin? or is it Lion? ah doesn't matter.
Are you hasbeen a National by Any chance?
The red neck fear and dread flows from your key board this morning.
And the untruths remind me of that near dead party, intent on feeding from its own coalition partners.
Equally intent on leaving its baby the farmers dumped by the roadside after a Sunday drive.
Searching endlessly for ways to win seats yet reaffirming that country Labor is far more the party of the bush.

Hasbeen, don't worry about belly. He is so intrenched in labor that they can do no wrong and, even if they do, he simply hangs 'S' on the other side to avoid facing facts.

The facts are that our seniors, many of whom helped calve this nation and make it what it is today, had to fight tooth and nail just to get a measly few bucks, which by the way, has already been eaten up by increases in everthing.

Meanwhile, these illegal's simply say no! make a stand and look what they get.

Now putting politics aside, this guy is all talk and no action.

He's just a smooth talking 'pretty boy' and, when we need action, we just get words.

Let's just hope he is not the one in power if we ever get invaded as he can't even control a hand full of 'boat people' and they don't have guns.

When I first saw the thread title I thought it was another discussion about misleading labelling, but I see that it's just another redneck rant from Hasbeen.

Mind you, what with "loins", "bellies" and seniors who "calved" this nation, it's quite an entertaining example of butchery of our language.

Ah yes, typical stuff from our one and only CJM - straight into offensive diatribe with no attempt made to address the subject at hand.

What a genius!

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Yes Hasbeen, I've got to agree. Rudd is proving to be just dismal!

Actually, worse - downright disastrous!

But I wouldn't say he's akin to a mouse with his extremist future-destroying maximised population growth 'big Australia' policies.

Lighten up, Ludwig. If any post so far in this thread qualifies as "offensive diatribe" it's the OP.

I just made fun of yet another OLO redneck rant about asylum seekers - I'll leave the offensive diatribes to you and your hater mates.

Do have a lovely day.

"I just made fun of yet another OLO redneck rant about asylum seekers"

Yes well that says it all CJ. You do have a bizarre notion of 'fun'.

"I'll leave the offensive diatribes to you and your hater mates."

Ahhhhh hahahahaa!! The day that you leave offensive diatribe to other people will be the day you drop dead!! !!

One thing has become patently clear from the recent asylum seeker drama, as if it wasn't perfectly obvious beforehand. This is that your argument on the whole subject is just complete bunkum and that strong border-protection policies that put an end to this whole saga are ESSENTIAL.

Then as I've said a hundred times before, we should boost our input into refugee issues via our formal offshore program, including a doubling of our annual intake.

I do not see how it is redneck, which is rate hate speech btw. Taxpayers have every right to decide how their money is spent and clear this was a waste of money. The war is over. Few have good reason to flee. Most Sri Lankans repatriated so also a waste of their money also..and waste of lives in some cases. How is this redneck? Goodness you just brim over with hatred for fellow man. I guess you must have the white South African gene..wow look at all that exploitable labour floating on our high seas! What do they do? Oh yes they can do all the rubbish work the like of CJ do not want to do as there medical degrees probably will not be recognised here? Racist? yep. So if anyone racist, it is those that think it is ok they can be enslaved into jobs that simply do not pay a living wage. History repeats.

Belly,
I don't know what Hasbeens politics are, nor care, but his critisisms of Rudd are valid. As I recall Rudd did state they would not reach Aus. There has been a special deal been done.

After over 12 months and a couple of thousand illegals, going from near zero, and some 52 deaths later, even you would have to conceed that it was a mistake to give in to the extreme left and soften the measures that kept the illegals out for the last 4-5 years.

It took the previous government about 5 years to come to the realization that the only way to get the illegals to stop coming is to deny them what they are after. Hence the 'Pacific solution' and TPVs. This government should learn from that but the 'Indonesian solution' has fallen over.

Now they have given in to blackmail by those who hijacked the Oceanic Viking.

This mornings news says the Indonesians are considering, or preparing, one of their Navy ships to take the 255 'squatters' on board the other boat, back to Sri Lanka. Their patience is apparently running out.

Interesting to see what happens there. If they are taken to Sri Lanka, it will do more to deter others from trying the trip than all the government deals and diplomacy that has taken place. We should be advertising, in Sri Lanka, about the dangers, when the 11 drowned, and also the few we just forcebly sent back.

The only way to stop the boats coming is to deny them access to Aus and no permanent residency.

CJ; now tahts a crkca up. If olny it was imoparnt for the egnilsh lagnuge to be spetl rhgit you may wel hvae a viadl pinot.

But, as you obviously are able to interpret what was said, even though it may not have been correctly spelt, this simply proves that spelling is over rated and that society needs to ‘move on’ as ‘gen Y’ and ‘gen X’ don’t care about ‘correct spelling’, nor do they care about the old ‘fuddy-duddies’ that can’t help but correct others and, as they will be our future leaders, you had best get used to it.

Times have changed, like it or not!

Banjo, Well said.

Striding into this red neck thread I wish say Gday to CJM, gee they give you some don't they?
Notice how their descriptions of your post better fit theirs.
The missus good morning.
Us unionists call it getting on the stump, and I intend to.
Excuse me while I stop laughing, ROF in fact .
OK got it under control on the stump ready to rock and roll.
AH why bother, read this mornings polls, understand what it tells us, my team flogs yours.
Got to go its coming back ROF!

Ah Belly; understand what it tells us, my team flogs yours.

That statement really shows that to you, this is all just a big game.

In politics, a winning party needs only be better than the other side and that's a shame because it also means that they don't need to be any better than they have to.

In business, on the other hand, one has to be able to run a business in a 'profitable manner' otherwise they simply fail and fade away.

It is for this reason that I feel the country should be run as a business, not a 'game' as you see it.

Just remember. Anyone who does not run a business is totally relient on the people who do run businesses, both large and small.

Now I suggest that 'your side' start working on how to replenish the billions they have wasted, in record time.

Simply throwing money at a problem (stimulus packages) has done little or nothing towards creating jobs and, as to their attempt at 'creating employment' (solar and insulation), what a joke this has turned out to be!

Belly “Striding into this red neck thread I wish say Gday to CJM, gee they give you some don't they”

No less than the resident moron deserves Belly.

I find it easiest to throw him a stick and see how long it takes him to fetch it and bring it back

“Us unionists call it getting on the stump,”

Phrases more like “us unionists are usually stumped” would be more appropriate

“understand what it tells us, my team flogs yours.”

And pendulums swing

Just wait until the feeble minded (your voting base) find out how Krudd’s self-aggrandizing plans have killed their superannuation and childrens futures, the pendulum will swing… it is merely a matter of how long before the penny drops

And lets face it, with socialists at the helm of the economy, that is about all anyone will have left to pass on to their children, a penny – and even that will be used to pay the interest on the dimulous package debt.

Like rehctub said “In business, on the other hand, one has to be able to run a business in a 'profitable manner' otherwise they simply fail and fade away.”

So far Krudd & Co have blown the budget surpluses and driven the country into debt. If it had been private enterprise Krudd and his “team” would be in the bankruptcy court and disbarred from holding any positions as company directors (HIH, Ray Williams and Rodney Adler spring to mind)

“Just remember. Anyone who does not run a business is totally relient on the people who do run businesses, both large and small.”

That is right… no private transactions means nothing to levy taxes on.

And regarding Krudd and co profligacy with tax payers money and incurring debt in their name, the following is worth remembering


“……once we concede that public spending and taxation are than a necessary evil we have lost sight of the core values of freedom."
(Dearest Margaret)

Hi Belly - yes indeed, I take it as a mark of success that I'm the guy that the haters most love to hate around here. At least when they're having a go at me they're temporarily leaving the more defenceless objects of hatred du jour alone :)

CJ Moron "that I'm the guy that the haters most love to hate around here."

I do not hate you Moron....

I do feel disgust and pity though...

"Disgust" for the attention which you think you deserve and

"Pity" for the paucity of argument you bring to debate and how you displaythe shallow veneer of what some might call sarcasm, which you use to presumably justify your feeble existence.

I suggest you run off now and find some obscure area of your anatomy to lick.

Speaking of "offensive diatribes" and "rednecks", here's good old Col Rouge.

How's your mail order Barbie doll, Col?

CJMoron “How's your mail order Barbie doll, Col?”

Ah well “bling-bling Barbie” (a title she finds loves and laughs over) suits her, her diamonds and Versace tops. Although, I must say she has been in Australia for over 40 years, one of the folk who was a migrant but did not turn up in a leaky boat (the sort you like, probably because you can feel better than them) but with a medical doctors degree, to which she has added multiple diplomas and a second doctorate.

So she is not the sort of “village girl” who you would likely end up with as “mail order”

and the best thing about her SLK 230 Merc is…

She is the sort of person you would expect to see in the seat of an SLK 230 (its called class)

Unlike some telly-tubby lookalike, occupying the back of a municipal dog-catchers ute…. You know, the sort of bride you are more likely to be seen with

We can now easily see just what CJ is.

He approves the expenditure of half a million, on each of these boat people.

Going by his silence on my other thread, he also aproves ripping a hundred or so, off some LOL pensioner to pay for it.

Nice work CJ.

CJM, The tone and content of your responses tells us you are a profoundly unhappy person and I'm at a loss to understand why you keep telegraphing that message, don't tell us, go talk to someone about it.

You say "I'm the guy that the haters most love to hate around here", and you seem quite happy with that status. There can be only one explanaition why you are so happy to be hated, and that is because nobody else can hate you quite as much as you hate yourself.

Don't give up your day job, spindoc. I don't hate anybody - least of all me :)

It's not me that's in a fearful, selfish and hateful lather about a few thousand desperate asylum seekers who travel here by boat.

Col Rouge have no doubt, I am a warrior, proudly so.
I however have never, not once told you just what I think of you.
I have no need to, you slice and cut your self with every post.
Rechtub my rednecked mate, we could have a beer or coffee any day.
I do not see you as the enemy, in fact as uniformed, fixed, unable to think as the other side,yes and more, but your posts win my points.
Can not remember the posters name but you do write rubbish, CJM is green.
He like me has to be offended by the right wing rubbish this thread is.
I even more so am concerned at the simple fact
Undeniable truth, Australia is more than happy with Rudd, more than unhappy with Turnbull, unlikely to change we are bound for another term.
Yet this mob, forgive Col he is bigoted, refuse to understand now and forever they are in the minority.
Now Col Rouge that should not have been said, while I truly want to avoid you it is fact you stand for every thing I despise, proudly it seems.
And just now like it r not you stand with far less support than me.
I had the grace during my party's time in the wilderness to understand we put ourselves there, and at times to see and say openly Howard was doing good job.
I will never get such balance from most in this thread , is that not true?

"So far Krudd & Co have blown the budget surpluses and driven the country into debt. If it had been private enterprise Krudd and his “team” would be in the bankruptcy court and disbarred from holding any positions as company directors."

Yes Col, this is the most important stuff-up of all. It's a whole lot more significant than Krudd's weakening of border-protection policy.

At the first hint of a bit of a stutter in our manic never-ending-growth economy, the whole budget suprlus is blown... and in the most inefficient manner!! That is absolutely incredible. There's nothing left for when things really do get a bit desperate, which Krudd's political direction will ensure. And now there's a whole lot of paying back to be done by all of us over a lot of years to come. Just mismanagement on the most staggering scale!

"I suggest you [CJM] run off now and find some obscure area of your anatomy to lick."

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha !! !! !!

Good to see CJ getting a good solid well-deserved bagging!

Gee CJ I wonder what proportion of your posts have got absolutely nothing to do with the thread? Must be hundreds!

You're a serial and prolific OLO rule breaker.

Tch tch tch.

Now, what do you think of my lambasting of Krudd for blowing our surplus? Pretty damn important stuff don't you think. But you couldn't see fit to make a comment on it. Perhaps its because you actually agree with me...hmmmm?

Ludwig have you even a little understanding of the concept?
glass houses and stones?
That words that clearly miss lead and miss inform are not weapons?
In highlighting your support for such uninformed thoughts as your mate Col you win my argument for me.
What you need desperately to understand is your war on population must not let you drift into ignoring the GFC, it nothing else took us into debt.
You should avoid putting your self in the fake basket along side Col Rouge.
He is embittered by his life and trying to relive it.
Such rubbish as his love of that old Thatcher leave me breathless her own party dumped her, it took took long but they did.
Mouse? well lion or loin I see a mouse or two has big brothers here.
Read your post Ludwig, before posting, if I was to look for understanding of issues in them it would be a long search.

Belly “I however have never, not once told you just what I think of you.”

And I have never asked

Nor do I care

It is simple Belly, even in the superficial scheme of things, here are OLO, your polemic opinion of me just don’t matter.

To put it mildly, you are an irrelevance

Re “He like me has to be offended by the right wing rubbish this thread is.”

Ah you are such a pair of “delicate little flowers”

Maybe you should both go and post on some mincing, lefty socialist site, where big bad righties never go and you can do whatever it is to one another, stroking egos or whatever…

“Yet this mob, forgive Col he is bigoted, refuse to understand now and forever they are in the minority.”

Like I said, “pendulums” and “swinging”

As for “bigoted” coming from you, Belly and your personal (vested union interest) bias, that is a complement.

“Now Col Rouge that should not have been said, while I truly want to avoid you it is fact you stand for every thing I despise, proudly it seems.”

Ah we all say things that we should not say Belly,

I am and will always be proud to stand up for what a one-eyed, monolithic moron "despises".

Because you have simply confirmed the limits to your thinking, which is in line with the sort of dross and wannabe-isms thrown around by most pseudo-intellectuals of the left.

“And just now like it r not you stand with far less support than me.”

I have always stood as a voice of one… other individuals are free to join with me to express their concerns on matters but, ultimately we were born as individuals we will be buried singly and in between, I have the strength to rely only on my own support.

Your weakness is that you think you have the support of others…

just wait until the current "lies of socialism" come home to roost,

you will then see how much “support” you really have.

In truth your post made me happy Col, and confirmed my views about you.
Your fixation with Socialism is amusing, for sure and certain the ALP is no more Socialist than the Liberals.
Once, until they became to miners party the Country party/Nationals had been the most Socialistic party in Australia.
In a country that has free education, hospital care, pensions, unemployment support, we have a form of Socialism already.
You look for Tigers in the home of kittens.
You tell me what others think of me on what evidence?
I am not one eyed, but you indeed are.
I have an understanding, the constant improvement of my party demands we lift the lid on wrongs within it, and have often done so.
I Col give no value to you or your thoughts, if you fell in the street I would be first to pick you up.
If hard times befell you I would give you my last dollar, a home, anything, see I value humanity.
I understand we are different, and that just maybe your anger miss focused ideas are a product of an old man unable to be rid of an unhappy past.

Belly “Your fixation with Socialism is amusing, for sure and certain the ALP is no more Socialist than the Liberals.”

Ah another good old socialist lie and KRudd strategy:

Pretending to be what you are not

If, what you claim were the truth, the socialists would still be voting “liberal” and we would all be better off..

but some left of centre ninnies and wannabe, guilt-trippers, confused with their own liberty, thought we would be better ruled by the ALP swill.

So you are, yet again wrong… there is a difference between labor and liberal, just as there is a difference between US Democrat and US Republican, a UK Labour and UK Conservative.

But you delude yourself if you want… leave it to those with a subtler / better developed mind than yours to distinguish the differences.

“You tell me what others think of me on what evidence?”

I suggest nothing of the sort – and challenge you to quote where I have…
you are obviously making things up..
delusions to grandeur is a sad self-deception

“If hard times befell you I would give you my last dollar, a home, anything, see I value humanity.”

Somehow I find that is likely to be less than true… just another lie of a socialist, pandering for the support and acceptance of bystanders.

“I understand we are different, and that just maybe your anger miss focused ideas are a product of an old man unable to be rid of an unhappy past.”

I am not angry. I am just remarried, to a beautiful and talented lady.

We have our future plans in place and are focused on them:

travelling, enjoying life; dancing the tango through our later years; listening to fine music, enjoying the finer things of life; seeing the ballroom (we have one in the house) full of friends enjoying themselves; zooming off along the coast in the Merc, roof down, the wind teasing our hair.
It hardly sounds like “a product of an old man unable to be rid of an unhappy past.”

You are projecting the usual, unhappy, socialist envy

Ah Col maybe it is best, maybe I have a guardian on my shoulder, just maybe GY is watching.
Last night, offended by your doubting my honesty, by the quite silly childlike references to me and Socialism I unleashed.
But was of line and lost the post in a Milli second then back on line?
So here is my well thought out response, I hope you are as happy as you say, I truly do.
Yet think I would find nothing to be so in your life style, in fact ROFL about every bit of it.
I picture you in my mind as the head floor walker in are you being served, only older, he however has more balance.
Pip pip old fellow enjoy that run down to the sea side.

Belly, I don’t understand your post of 18 November that is directed at me. Could you please put it in different words. Thanks.

Hey, what’s with your CJ-supporting stuff. How could you Belly?!? It certainly doesn’t do your credibility any good! ( :>|

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CJ, I notice that you have ignored my question…or perhaps just overlooked it. So I’ll ask it again;

Now, what do you think of my lambasting of Krudd for blowing our surplus? Pretty damn important stuff don't you think. But you couldn't see fit to make a comment on it. Perhaps its because you actually agree with me...hmmmm?