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It is interesting that some who normally spruik apocalypse-now (aka AGW).One of the core liturgies of which is that individuals in Western countries consume and pollute disproportionately, should on this thread, be in effect arguing that we should enticing more to join the bacchanalia.

Can't get much more ostrich-like than that –ay, Q& A !

Q&A: "Anyone else care to comment?"

There is no much to add, Q&A. Stellar job - well done perhaps?

You eventually got Jayb to say:

Jayb: "You have demonstrated you prefer to shoot first, ask questions later."

It very difficult to show someone is deliberately distorting the picture. It requires citations, lots of words and a fair bit of reasoning - more than most following the thread are willing to read.

However, if you can get them to distort what was said earlier in the thread so badly that it becomes difficult to accept a word they say at face value - then you have a slam dunk. And that is what you did.

ekastahr2,

I initially thought you had a point, but Foxy convinced me otherwise.

rstuart it was Q&A that said "You have demonstrated you prefer to shoot first, ask questions later." I gave an appropriate reply. I suppose you want to accept everyone who claims to want asylum then sort them out.

Sorry mate, once they are here it's hard to move them out. See the Customs ship. They won't get off & we can't seem to shift them.

Do you have a possible solution to the problem or will you cop out as well. "It's someone elses problem not mine." Another, all mouth & no substance.

When one of these radicales that you want to let in blows up one of your children in the name of Allah are you willing to say that it was really our fault for being racist & not letting more in. I can see the reply now, "How do I know they will do that." As I said before.

Only after I have ,"blown the whistle, waved the flag, shouted stop & fired a warning shot. As is required. It's better than taking a car engine through the forehead.

Bleeding heart d!c#H&@D$ who haven got a clue & live in fairyland $#!t me right off.

Jayb: "rstuart it was Q&A that said ..."

Sorry Jayb. My mistake.

Jayb: "Bleeding heart d!c#H&@D$ who haven got a clue & live in fairyland $#!t me right off."

But all is well that ends well, I guess. If I failed to make my point before, you have made it for me with that little blast.

By the by, in attacking the refugees, you have picked the wrong target. We signed the UNHCR, not the refugees. We put voluntarily put ourselves in the position of having to accept every genuine refugee that appears on our door step. We knew full well by signing it we would have to give every Tom, Dick and Harry safe haven while we checked out whether they really were running for their lives. We also knew once they got here, if they were genuine it was almost a dead certainty they would end up staying. To put that another way, Howard's promise to given the Temporary Protection Visa's until an country sprang up and said "hey - we will take them off your hands" was a lie. Every country is full of people who hold the same opinion on the matter as you.

So don't go blaming the refugees for "taking advantage" our good nature. We made the offer. We can also retract it at any time, but for whatever reason we haven't. Rudd hasn't, and Howard despite all his posturing, didn't. So it you want to attack someone - attack them.

Attacking the refugees for doing what ultimately we said they are welcome to do strikes me as a fairly piss weak response.

I don’t know about that; for if the Bed wetters cry human compaction and fairness; well that means Guilt tripping; and besides, to actually demonstrate the cognitive ability to reason, when engaging with guilt ridden bed wetters, and how much of what they utter is absolute subjective garbage is simple;
Third world Reich fuehrer Rudd of the Idiots social republic of the Reich Ruddunnistan, claims that People smugglers are the scum of the earth; and will be treated harshly;
Ok what part of that sentence is confusing?
People Smuggler , they do not refer to them as Asylum seeking smugglers ; Well in that case , they are not scum of the earth at all , they are saintly heroes and are the modern day humble people saving people’s lives ; be it a very expensive boat tour .

The next time I hear and see a pensioner freezing to death because they cannot afford to turn on a power switch – for heat or light , and when they have eaten their third can of dog food on every second day , and to realise their whole life and dignity has been annihilated, and their efforts obliterated;
But that’s ok; Bed wetters and handkerchief sucking freaks don’t care .

So now you may know what it is all about ; and it is not human rights.

They cannot be asylum seekers because the UN says that when they cross their own border into another country they are seeking asylum after that they are on their own. If they cross another border then they are not asylum seekers or refugees in the correct sense of the UN agreement.

Why do they want to come here when they have crossed a number of borders with similar cultures to which they would fit into more easily?

The prime aim is to convert the world to Islam, if not by force then by subterfuge. Overwelming the Western world with a Muslim population then forcing non Muslims to convert. As is starting to happen in Europe now. Muslims are demanding that Europeans change their Laws to accommadate their Sharia Law. It has started happening here already. See, special times in swimming pools for Muslims, Multiple Marriages & a few other subtle changes they are demanding until we can't go back. Our Australian way of life will be subverted & gone & the bleeding hearts will be to blame. But, as usual, "It will have been someones elses problem."