We don't get to witness loyalty from Governments that's for sure. How to Governments become such heartless & integrity devoid outfits ? People with the same lack of qualities vote them in, that's how !

the solution is simple we should be allowed to torture all witnesses until they tell the version we think is acceptable.

Yes, you see that a lot with family members who may be arrested for a crime with the families touting out all sorts of excuses and victim blaming rhetoric especially in rape cases.

Son arrested for rape = she asked for it or lured him in some way, or NO really means yes.

Daughter was raped = the guy is a heartless b*tard.

Principles lost to the strength of family loyalties.

I agree that our governments have misplaced loyalties. This and the previous government believe they are doing the right thing by selling not only public assets but valuable resources to international interests. There is no loyalty to the consumer, the farmer or the Australian small business person.

And a willingness to pay huge amounts of interest to Chinese or American financial institutions rather than use our own Mint to finance resource projects.