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How secure is your internet from eaves dropping?

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examinator

I don't understand jiberish,

Can you spell it out in English?

Are your saying that I must be evil to see something wrong in the world when surveillance of computers and phone calls and all other communication has became a matter of fact for some of us.

I am glad you are familiar with deleting registry entries from your computer. That will surely ensure you will not be getting monitored then, you think!

The UK Government has the ability to monitor all calls and internet activity and Billions has been spend on doing so. There was a public outcry and the project was said to be put on hold.

I do not think so! If the power of the government is extended to allow monitoring of everybody then the government will always know the opposition parties thoughts and ideas.

I have nothing to hide and just monitor connections to my computer although all can't be monitored.

You seem to attack what you do not understand. It is not just people that are always monitoring certain people or news media or political parties it is super computers as well.

It is accepted by most journalists that they are being monitored and even MP's correspondence are being monitored and shared and I will show evidence if needed. Wake up examinator.
Posted by BrianHowes, Sunday, 25 October 2009 9:28:38 AM
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Don't worry too much if you're running Ubuntu Linux, Forrest. One possible slowdown across the desktop maybe a software update, by default automatic, although you might find a more specific cause for the flashing lights if you open the System Monitor, in the SYSTEM -> ADMINISTRATION menu on Jaunty Jackalope and Karmic Koala.

Software updates will usually invoke a fairly active modem LED as well as HDD writing when download complete, and the occasional delay on mouse or kbd at times when the system is working at 100%.

One advantage of Linux/Ubuntu is that open-source operating system and updates are trustworthy because every piece of code in every program is freely available for all the World to see and change if they wish to. There is very little chance of secret squirrel business ala Redmond's XP/Vista/7 NTFS tactics. No viruses either.

Another advantage over M$ is the partition and directory setup. The documents, pictures, downloads, music and videos that you work with online, as well as the web browser bookmarks, history, cookies and whatever other fingerprints you key in are stored in your /home/forrest/Documents directory and the same for the others respectively. Only you and those with the admin permissions to sudo nautilus etc. can read your data. If the US forces really felt the urge to perv on you, then they would have to invade your home and seize your equipment, and go through your HDD from another Linux machine compatible with Ext3 or Ext4. This cannot be done without physically unplugging your HDD from the CPU and connecting it up to another machine that they have root access to.

With Linux, insecurity begins at the ISP, because the high school kid who answers the phone on weekends can go through everything you do through your modem.
Posted by Seano, Sunday, 25 October 2009 10:44:09 AM
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Forrest was reassured by Seano's post about the relative security of his Ubuntu Linux, but was at the same time a little bit sheepish about admitting that he was still running the old Gutsy Gibbon, Ubuntu 7.10, on which the automatic updates had long ago been disabled.



Forrest was a very pedestrian user of his computer.



At first Forrest had devilish glee with the thought that somewhere, someone might have uploaded part of the contents of his hard drives. It would serve them right, Forrest thought, thinking that they could think the thoughts of Forrest Gumpp as thoughtfully as he himself thought them. "Think again", Forrest thought to all and sundry, wishing them luck in the circles in the spirals of the windmills of his mind. Forrest had thought well to download the 'Power without pride' thread when he had, months ago: it had been his, all his; now perhaps it was 'theirs', all 'theirs'. Forrest wished them luck. With any luck they would get a pain in the belly trying to digest that lot!



It was then that the latent meaning of the words of the old song hit Forrest like a ton of bricks.



"On a corner, by a porn shop, in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania ....". Forrest couldn't remember any more of it, but what there was of it was more than enough.



Twitter! It could be anybody's undoing.



Twitter wasn't for twits as Pericles had proclaimed. It was an intelligence gathering tool for the US military-industrial-congressional complex, for sure. It just had to be! Forrest knew Twitter hadn't yet made much, if any, money, and wondered where in the US Defense budget its funding had been hidden. Suddenly, sick to the bottom of his stomach, Forrest realized how 'selected' twits could so easily be incriminated.

It was the porn.

It came on Twitter. Whether you wanted it or not. It came in the guise of 'followers'. If one was but moderately egotistical, one would tend to let them follow, as it built up one's score, rather than block them.

Mistake!
Posted by Forrest Gumpp, Sunday, 25 October 2009 8:36:11 PM
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ForrestGumpp

Is right about Twitter being a US government ran.

There is a budget for such things: here is an example:

Report Reveals Chinese Threat to U.S. Technology
In 2007, the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission reported that Chinese spying in America is the leading threat to American technology, especially through cyber attacks. The report recommended that lawmakers finance counterintelligence efforts to stop the Chinese from stealing US technology and manufacturing expertise, and it called for the US to work closely with China to promote energy security and deal with environmental problems such as climate change and pollution.

Report: China spies threaten U.S. technology (Associated Press)
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/15/us.china.tech.ap/index.html

It has a 404 error becoming increasingly suspicious.

U.S. panel urges vigilance on China spying, cyber war (by Paul Eckert, Reuters)
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN1423827920071115?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&rpc=69

We can be thankful that Reuters link is still working as so many links to information the USA and UK governments do not want people to see are hidden by IP address blocking as with the Olympics in China by China or the information is removed or the file that gives the 404 error message.

Here is a link to how information is easily collected by the USDEA
http://cryptome.org/fbi-corrupt.htm

Here is more information related to US monitoring which is far more advanced than this report says.

http://www.unc.edu/courses/2009spring/law/357c/001/FBI/techniques.html

Before I post the techniques I am aware of, do you as OLO users think wholesale monitoring that extends to the whole world acceptable?
Posted by BrianHowes, Sunday, 25 October 2009 10:16:54 PM
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The FBI has quietly built a sophisticated, point-and-click surveillance system that performs instant wiretaps on almost any communications device, according to nearly a thousand pages of restricted documents newly released under the Freedom of Information Act.

The surveillance system, called DCSNet, for Digital Collection System Network, connects FBI wiretapping rooms to switches controlled by traditional land-line operators, internet-telephony providers and cellular companies. It is far more intricately woven into the nation's telecom infrastructure than observers suspected.

It's a "comprehensive wiretap system that intercepts wire-line phones, cellular phones, SMS and push-to-talk systems," says Steven Bellovin, a Columbia University computer science professor and longtime surveillance expert.

DCSNet is a suite of software that collects, sifts and stores phone numbers, phone calls and text messages. The system directly connects FBI wiretapping outposts around the country to a far-reaching private communications network.

Many of the details of the system and its full capabilities were redacted from the documents acquired by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, but they show that DCSNet includes at least three collection components, each running on Windows-based computers.

The $10 million DCS-3000 client, also known as Red Hook, handles pen-registers and trap-and-traces, a type of surveillance that collects signaling information -- primarily the numbers dialed from a telephone -- but no communications content. (Pen registers record outgoing calls; trap-and-traces record incoming calls.)

http://brianhowes.typepad.com/uk-us-unfair-extradition/2009/10/point-click-eavesdrop-how-the-fbi-wiretap-net-operates.html

More to the point I am making is that this is not limited to the USA but the who world.

If unchallenged there will be no privacy in your own family life, you could end up being prosecuted for visiting websites banned by the US or a fictional story you write on your computer about terrorism is the cause of an extradition request from the USA. Many more examples exist here that OLO members may wish to expand on.
Posted by BrianHowes, Sunday, 25 October 2009 10:58:00 PM
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Well it seems that posts are missing on this thread and others, which means that either the server had to use a backup of it's posts that was about 24 hours old or the posts have been removed for other reasons.

I am noticing not a lot of posting to this forum at the moment but certainly a lot of interest in looking.

I wonder if GY would please post here or on another thread what happened to the missing posts and the server?

I am just curious as to the background of the total loss of such a big forum that even political people post.

I know it will of been outside the control of the Administrator, but because I run several Blogs and Websites and Host my own Domain I would find it interesting and it may help myself and others stop getting the same problem.

I hope I am not being cheeky by asking Graham.
Posted by BrianHowes, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 10:53:57 PM
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