Rob....its not about comparative scientific contribution by various cultures. Its about this.

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YUSUFALI: The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Noe carefully the words.

1/ ALLAHS CURSE be on them.
2/ They are deluded.
3/ Away from truth.

Now.. imagine if I ran a seminar across Australia, had a web site and gave out pamphlets claiming these things about Muslims ? Or..stood outside a Mosque and made such claims.
Or.. sought to introduce legislation which supported those claims.

Your present status as a 'non' Christian probably makes you feel 'yawn.... so what' but if hisory teaches anything, it teaches that 'unbelievers' as you currently describe yourself would be in a worse situation than the Christian. This would especially be so if the likes of Omran and Benbrika ever managed to gain a political foothold.

Perhaps you blokes don't feel it, because you have not lived it, though C.J. did mention he worked in Muslim countries with some kind of aid work I think. Hardly the type of thing to attract the ire of radical Muslims..he also would not have been promoting the Christian faith described above by the Quran. So, maybe he just saw the 'grateful' side ? Had he been trying to plant churches, or bring new spiritual life to people in darkness, in the grip of destructive obligations to vengeful 'spirits' things might have been different for his experience. Muslims get cranky over Christians meddling even with animists in countries controlled by them.

I've got a number of interesting ideas unfolding, and yes, they will be on youtube. All in good time.

Always remember..its the 'radicals' who drive the agenda. Pointing to a large number of peaceful Muslims changes nothing. Have you looked at Hamas/Hezbollah lately ? Now we all know there are many many 'peaceloving' Palestinians ...right ?

UPDATE

BIKINI march will now be called 'ONE NATION, ONE CULTURE ONE RACE' demonstration...

After consultations with the original bikini march organizers and some concerns for their safety, out of respect for them, we will change the name as above.

Good idea, Boazy. I guess it'd be a bit awkward goose-stepping while wearing a bikini.

This is scary. This is nuts. It's like watching Psycho.

I've never thought much of your views BD, and I notice you never respond to my comments, but that doesn't stop me from being concerned for your welfare since you're presumably a fellow human being.

I'm in the process of knitting you a nice cardigan with long, wrap-around sleeves

>>BIKINI march will now be called 'ONE NATION, ONE CULTURE ONE RACE' demonstration... <<

Boaz, don't say I didn't warn you.

You have just stepped over the line from "mild eccentric with potentially dangerous views" to "unimaginative naif with rabble-rousing ambitions".

Fortunately you are not smart enough to be Australia's Oswald Mosley, but I am sure you will be there at his feet when he appears, waving provocative banners, preaching your own twisted version of "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer", and revelling in the revulsion directed at you by your fellow-citizens.

Have a great day.

Hi Chainsmoker... mate.. I do indeed respond to some of your posts.
I certainly don't deliberately ignore you.

Thanx for your concern for my welfare....as I indeed am of yours.
Would you do both of us a favor and look at THIS..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs

Now...here is the first comment on the vid today by:
PEACEISLAMMUMOOD
'ITS about time the kuffars get their necks and heads chopped off, now is the time because they are fornicators and worldly people'

Do you notice the bloke with the big mouth..
-"We will bomb you, invade you, take your wives and children as war booty" What year was this said ? 2005. Gee.. now that sounds exactly like Sura 23:5-6 from the year 630 ish

Now.. if this is the mindset NOW of a significant number of Muslims (it doesn't matter a scrap if its only a percentage.. say 5%) 5% of 100,000 is.... how many ? thats 5000 people.

So, the welfare you should be most considering is yours and your families. As for me? I don't matter much in the long run.

Pericles. You are worse than a dog with a bone mate. No matter that its been cleaned of all protein you still want to gnaw away at it. Mosely Mosely Mosely.. my goodness, I think you WERE traumatized by your grand-dad. It appears to have given you tunnel vision about some issues for sure.

C.J. 'goose stepping'..again.. in the Pericles mould, not seeing leaves for the trees. I'm beginning to think you are more closed minded that I previously thought. Clearly you did NOT view the video showing the incredible similarity and even connection between Herr Hitler and his national socialists and the Jihadi's preparing for war today. I'll provide the link AGAIN (Chainy... see this one too mate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V548WKjVjC4
That was made by MUSLIMS (sunnis) about Shia's.

Finally, I totally do appreciate that my posts must seem a bit surreal :) Reactions are exactly as anticipated. But the 'payload' is not what is being suggested by C.J. and Pericles. Chainy to understand the "ONE" idea look at
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=164