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Does the US President Barack Obama deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?

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Foxy

Your comment:

"But then people like the Dalai Lama, Martin Luther King, Mother Teresa, Jimmy Carter, Mikhail Gorbachev, Willy Brandt, et al, received
the Nobel because of efforts not achievements"

I think you will find that all of them had substantial achievements behind their name.

If after 10 years, for whatever reasons, Obama has achieved nothing or even expanded the war in Afghanistan, this award will be a joke.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 16 October 2009 8:38:57 AM
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Dear Houellie,

Thanks for your input - and of course
the choices you suggest for the Nobel
are undoubtedly worthy ones.

However, the Nobel Committee selected
the leader of a superpower who
has the capacity to deter war globally.
He has the capacity to enhance the
prospects for peace rather than war.
By placing the emphasis on international
diplomacy, co-operation between peoples,
seeking reductions in nuclear arsenals,
arms control, reaching out to the Islamic
world, encouraging peaceful solutions -
the US President captured the world's
attention and - gave the world hope for
a better future.

Dear Shadow Minister,

If more and more nuclear weapons are built,
and if more sophisticated means of delivering
them are devised, and if more and more nations
get control of these vile devices, then we
surely risk our own destruction. If a world
leader, a leader of a superpower such as the
US advocates finding ways to reverse that process,
by finding peaceful solutions, then possibly
in ten years time we can divert unprecedented energy
and resources to the real problems that face us,
including poverty, disease, overpopulation, injustice,
oppression and the devastation of our natural
environment.

Obama, (contrary to the previous Administration) is
pointing us in the right direction - that we will
choose to enhance the life on this planet
- and not destroy it.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2009 11:15:23 AM
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HECK..im awarding him..an emmie...AND an oscar

The lying game: how we are prepared for another war of aggression
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John Pilger
October 15, 2009

In 2001, the Observer in London published a series of reports that claimed an “Iraqi connection” to al-Qaeda, even describing the base in Iraq where the training of terrorists took place and a facility where anthrax was being manufactured as a weapon of mass destruction. It was all false. Supplied by US intelligence and Iraqi exiles, planted stories in the British and US media helped George Bush and Tony Blair to launch an illegal invasion which caused, according to the most recent study, 1.3 million deaths.

Something similar is happening over Iran: the same syncopation of government and media “revelations”, the same manufacture of a sense of crisis. “Showdown looms with Iran over secret nuclear plant”, declared the Guardian on 26 September. “Showdown” is the theme. High noon. The clock ticking. Good versus evil. Add a smooth new US president who has “put paid to the Bush years”. An immediate echo is the notorious Guardian front page of 22 May 2007: “Iran’s secret plan for summer offensive to force US out of Iraq”. Based on unsubstantiated claims by the Pentagon, the writer Simon Tisdall presented as fact an Iranian “plan” to wage war on, and defeat, US forces in Iraq by September of that year – a demonstrable falsehood for which there has been no retraction.

The official jargon for this kind of propaganda is “psy-ops”, the military term for psychological operations. In the Pentagon and Whitehall, it has become a critical component of a diplomatic and military campaign to blockade, isolate and weaken Iran by hyping its “nuclear threat”: a phrase now used incessantly by Barack Obama and Gordon Brown, and parroted by the BBC and other broadcasters as objective news. And it is fake.

Read entire article

http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=549
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Posted by one under god, Friday, 16 October 2009 11:56:00 AM
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Foxy,

In spite of being in office for a year, Obama has yet to commit to reducing the stockpile of weapons at all.

"President Obama vowed that the United States will take concrete steps toward a world free of nuclear weapons"

"President Obama urged nations Sunday to get rid of nuclear weapons"

"America will maintain a safe and secure nuclear capability "to deter our adversaries and reassure our allies"

If you look into it, Obama is looking to ensure that no one else gets nuclear weapons. If the US reduces its warheads from 10 000 to 9000 by eliminating some of the obsolete designs, how on earth will the likes of Iran no longer feel the need to arm themselves.

Talk is cheap, and that is all I have seen so far.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 16 October 2009 12:49:46 PM
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And a Logie OUG.

Lets not remember Foxy, that he was judged the winner after only 11 days in office.
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 16 October 2009 1:17:41 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Miracles don't happen overnight - the US President
inherited quite a mess in his own country
that will take time to clean up. However, as I said,
he has captured world attention and given the world
hope for a better future - and with all the problems
that exist - we certainly can use a positive force
instead of a negative one. Instead of looking at what
hasn't been achieved why not look at what has?
Google Obama's achievements for yourself.

Dear Houellie,

I'm surprised at you.

I would have thought you to be the type of person
that "thinks outside the square," yet here you are on
OLO coming up with the same old nay-sayings of
the status quo. I would have thought that you of
all people would understand why the Nobel Committee
awarded the prize to Obama
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 October 2009 6:17:08 PM
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