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The Polanski conundrum - when is pedophilia forgivable?
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Posted by Fractelle, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 2:51:34 PM
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You're right Forrest, I have been a bit surprised at the level of support on this forum for Polanski. Mind you, my primary intention in starting the thread was to start a conversation. That's what forums are all about. But I long ago gave up being overly surprised at what my fellow humans believe - that's why I do polling, because I find it often impossible to predict human behaviour.
That having been said, the polls on this issue are pretty unequivocal - the majority reckon Polanski is in the wrong. The curious thing is how the literary, arts and media establishments appear to be prepared to cut him slack that they wouldn't anyone else. One of my theories is that a lot of positions that we humans hold are post hoc justifications for a decision we have already made. The responses to this issue seem to support that contention Posted by GrahamY, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 3:18:20 PM
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If this is too long, fast forward to about 6 min 15 seconds.
Anyhow, I thought this PJTV Video: "Hollywood's Lame Defense of Roman Polanski" was interesting and hope you do too. http://www.pjtv.com/v/2517 Insightful, articulately explores just how perverse Polanski may be. Unlikely the Polliwoods will be accused of being hypocritical, now or in the future, as they do not have any values that can not be morphed, modified or nullified depending on the Situation of course. Polliwood can be hyper-critical of any political or social event (particularly if about Attractive, Educated, Female, Rural Dwelling, Fishn n Huntn, Christians)but if the great unwashed, movie going drones dare to criticise the elite, perverse and talented R Polanski, well you better look out. After all Whoopie has decried from the TV Appellate Bench that it wasn't "Rape, rape" gesticulations of quote marks you can visualise. Is it possible to imagine the scale of their outrage if Polanski were Father Piljek for example? It would be relentless, after all the Father would be a hypocrite. But we can not accuse Polliwood types of being hypocritical because they do not possess any non-negotiable ethical values. Except 1 rule conservatives = evil. Democrats = everything that = political correctness. Posted by Cowboy Joe, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 11:52:02 PM
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Thomasfromtacoma<"...for 1 thing I have a 15 yo daughter and we have a great relationship , in that she can tell me anything she does , and I attribute that to being confidant of her position being treated as an adult in society."
Your daughter is not an adult at 15 years old Thomas, and trust me, no 15 year old girl tells their father everything they do! Your naivity is astonishing. As a father of a 15 year old girl Thomas, I am even more amazed that you take the position that you do on the paedophile Polanski. In my opinion, and obviously the opinion of the US courts, the guy is a paedophile- a rapist of children. Then you spit out this little gem<"...anti Semitic Nazis that want Polanski incarcerated." Ok, so now it is the rest of us 'nazi's' against the Jewish paedophile is it? A cheap shot Thomas. Posted by suzeonline, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 1:11:06 AM
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Suze
Don't let him get to you while ever anyone speaks against Polanski we will just be labelled "Nazi" Jew haters by this idiot I suffer from depression from the hurt that children face and was assessed as such This depression is only growing because of my son's abuse and the increase in child abuse in all forms Yeah, we have had differences, so what, but with this child abuse and peadophilia you have made yourself clear on it You owe no explanation to anyone for standing against this shite in society As they have said to me stay strong but it is so bloody hard at times Take care all the best from Dave Posted by dwg, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 7:36:31 AM
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Well said forest Gump. It’s about time people realized that comment on a website no matter who organizes it is just that comment, no judgment no jury. Yes dwg I read the other links that’s why I am more informed than your obviously depression related spiel thank god your eligible for jury duty in the states otherwise who would hang all these called child molesters.
I you remember the background to Polanski his wife was murder by the e Manson gang, pregnant and they cut the child from the mother no doubt in a cult type ceremony. Did he bring that up in his defense yet you want to by bringing a man hose parents were tortured a murdered b the Germans. What kind of person are you. You say your son that as somehow molested I presume yet you don’t give any details and you expect Polanski to go through the anguish of his background .And your depressed!! What do yo think that might do to person? Christ almighty wakes up to the real world monsters not you depression induced scenarios of what might be. Your all weak gutted if yo don’t have the audacity to see the obvious and not the media quasi- judicial related dealings of this Hollywood trial. Insisted you lap up the irresponsible doodling s of a nether Jew bating unruliest that and I quote GrahamY “that’s why I do polling, because I find it often impossible to predict human behavior. “ Since when do you have the god given right to predict human nature you pompous ass. There is no statute of limitation for murder or pedophilia which is only right. However there is a limit on due process, double jeopardy ensures or is supposed to ensure that. Of course Australia doesn’t have DJ laws because they’re still back in the arc when it comes to the judiciary. http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/6110842/search-continues-for-missing-qld-cop/ Please explain this one, oh holier than though ones, And as for c j Morgan you obviously only want people to agree with you rather than observe any political- judicial process. Posted by thomasfromtacoma, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:01:38 AM
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By helping himself to the bodies (willing or not) of young girls?
NO, Forrest!
A thousand times no.
Many children were and still are orphaned and abandoned during times of war or what passes for peace - they do not all grow up to "recapture" their youth through the sexual occupation of the bodies of children.
Polanski could've served his sentence in the USA at the time of his crime and still gone on with his doubtless brilliant career. I am a big fan of his movies. However, unlike some, I can also distinguish between the artist and the lascivious man.