Bronwyn:"I'd respectfully suggest upping the disincentives to driving large 4W drive vehicles."

I don't pay to put fuel in my old nissan because I like paying for fuel, I do it because it can tow 2 1/2 tons and carry things like spare wheels for my truck or a ram for the forklift or the chainsaws or fuel and oil drums, not to mention being able to haul up to 6 kids to things like scout camps and the like and being able to get in and out of slippery worksites thanks to 4WD.

Point me to a bubble car that can do that and I'll swap tomorrow.

examinator:"are you telling us that you're happy with the level of crime prevention"

No, not really, the "nobody need ever know your name" thing really bothers me. How do you feel about that? Authoritarian enough for you?

Crime rates for most offences are at historic lows and likely to get lower still, despite all the hysteria in the media. Women's violence against men is a notable exception to the rule. I don't generally fear for either my property or myself, however.

All,
Antiseptic is exactly like the old 'Age' in Melbourne always agreed with the right to strike...'but not this one'. In the final analysis over 40 years every strike was a 'not this one'.

Again we have 'this is what I do and the method/reasoning is right
mentality.In order to let me do what *I want* to do take preference over the common good.

Antiseptic, there are ways around your needs and maybe some of your wants need changing. I can't justify not being pinged for breaking the law or doing what I WANT at the current cost. A few thousand killed Tens of thousands injured most costing taxpayers Millions. All that suffering/misery, loss of production it just isn't worth it. Especially if one of yours is effected because of someone else's transgressions.

BTW the local police know me rather well. After my sons bashing and their sloppy work there are some who are unappreciative of my knowledge of the system and tenacity. I'm simply not frightened of any authority.

I do respect the democracy and the laws and their purpose. Even if I'm inconvenienced some times. I'm not authoritarian as such just aware.

Thanks Bronwyn, whats your alternative to no 5? Keep in mind this is a suggested collective solution . I really want other ideas

Bronwyn,

4WDs are necessary on Sydney roads. With the pot-holes and speed humps and chicanes, it's the only way to get around.

I hate 4WDs too, as I'm generally a hater. But the solution is really to buy a monster truck I feel.

But why not ban them, that seems to be the solution to everything these days. Lets ban everything, starting with cars. I'm with you Foxy. Be afraid.

pontificator seems to have a special interest in pontificating about the rules of traffic when he's not on about manners. I suppose anal retentive types are like that. The last thing the world needs is more rules. Go to the park, and there is a sign of 15 things you're not allowed to do in the park, ranging from... well, most things you may need an open space for. The Nanny state is in full force, egged on by the pontificators of this world.

The tax pool just cant keep up with the likes of examinator and the thousands of new rules, and documentation and policing needed to enforce them. Think of the children! If we can save on child it will be worth it though huh? pft.

BTW: It's typical form from Exam to try to punish the poorest because they have old cars, and introduce new costs into driving when most suburbs have stuff all other options. Or maybe he intends to tax the rich more.

Examinator
Wouldn't you rather your teenagers in a technologically safe second hand car than a bomb. My plan is aimed at reducing the cost of secondhand but reliable cars

My wife and I drive great cars and my kids as well. It is important to me.

Foxy
Simple solution - get rid of all of the above,
and bring back the horse and cart.

Gee I hope that is just a joke, otherwise, be prepared to pay ten fold for your food stuffs alone'

Please, tell me it was a joke!

Of course it's a joke !

Admittedly a poor one.

My sense of humour sometimes gets a bit warped -
but hey - I'm only human. I am disappointed
though - that Examinator didn't even react.
That really puts me in my place - in the
'naughty corner.' (Hands on my head as well)!

But, back to the subject - I agree with Anti -
better driver education would help - as would
more frequent license testing - say every three
years - at least - my mum who's in her eighties
and has problems with her eyesight was granted a
license for ten years - what were they thinking?

Foxy's right, we should bring back horses. I like horses, & horses, being much slower, will be much safer.

But hang on a minute, in the day of the horse, the road toll, per head of population, was much higher than it has been, any time since. I guess that means it's safer to go faster.

At least it is safer, on a long run, when the boredom, generated by trundling down the near straight roads of today, at our mind-blowingly slow speed limits, make you a real prospect of falling asleep, & running into a tree.

Anyone who thinks 100Km/hour is fast, should immediately surrender their licence, as they have no idea of car control, a & are therefore not fit to drive on the public road.