Orange hair? now I am afraid.
DOCs how do I start? 16 kids that is how many mum had, only eight lived to grow up.
Each child kept up the birth rate mums last Christmas saw 37 sit at our lunch table.
That was about half of us, now? need the Sydney football stadium.
I know DOCs,
A long list in my post history of comments about them, and about government departments, yes red tape strangles them all.
Any , absolutely any government endeavor, DOCs too, can increase work outcomes,cut costs, instantly.
Sack all management, re employ only those who have a history of making things work.
half as many managers on contracts not wages forever no matter how bad they are.
Stop spending more time taking or threatening too, kids from good parents.
Then tell me, tell my neighbors, why our begging yes begging for help, was ignored until after a sweet Innocent child was raped, by her drunken father.
Tell us why she cried in the arms of my sisters in law in my front yard, while me and my bother cried too.
This politically correct idiot world we are forced to live in meant we could not touch her let alone cuddle her and say we are sorry.
Too late for her Jewely, she has 2 kids another on the way and is wed to a bloke who acts looks and is like her dad, she is about 19 and her life is in ruins, I blame DOCs

It’s okay, after three attempts it is now I am a perfectly respectable light brown with red highlights and my girl is never ever allowed to touch my hair ever again.

“DOCs how do I start? 16 kids that is how many mum had, only eight lived to grow up.
Each child kept up the birth rate mums last Christmas saw 37 sit at our lunch table.”

Wow and that was only half of you? I’m from a very small family. Xmas must boost the economy no end in your area.

“Too late for her Jewely, she has 2 kids another on the way and is wed to a bloke who acts looks and is like her dad, she is about 19 and her life is in ruins, I blame DOCs”

It came up yesterday here about how they haven’t heard of anyone successfully suing them even after they’ve admitted fault that has caused long reaching and extended damage. I have a similar story in my house at the moment Belly. I understand the tears.

If I have understood some of what Peter the Believer says he may make more sense with what he explains is missing, then as a normal citizen it could be possible to make a complaint in court if DoCS wont listen. DoCS, being our last port of call, hasn’t worked for many.

If you must fight a government department, fight dirty.
Oh try to get them to see reason, try to explain the issue.
But after it becomes obvious they are ignoring you, whitewashing the issue.
Not interested fight dirty.
Go to their Minister, the day after you take it to the shadow minister.
Tell the media, start with those who do not let truth get in the way of a good story.
Just fight, after a while you will be branded a vexatious litigant, a trouble maker, some one not to be believed.
But the victory, if you never ever give in you will win, is sweet.
I saw A docs regional manager sacked, know life has been not kind to this person, no big sit on bum wage packet, no job in fact.
At a meeting with the Minister, who said it was to thank me, I had the very greatest pleasure in saying just what I thought and walking out.
Fight jewely fight dirty, its worth it.

Hey Belly, thank you for your advice.

I have an update on the NZ smacking thing.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2757082/Over-1-3-million-vote-on-smacking

“Over 1.3 million New Zealanders have so far posted in their smacking referendum ballot papers as the closing date for voting draws near.
The referendum was forced by opponents of a 2007 law change that made it illegal for parents to use force against children for correction , but also allowed police the discretion not to prosecute inconsequential cases.

It asks: "Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?"

The Chief Electoral Office's vote processing centre had received 1,330,900 by Thursday last week.

Voting closes in five days time, on Friday 21 August.

Chief Electoral Officer Robert Peden said people should post their voting papers by Thursday to ensure they are received in time.

"If you've already made up your mind, I would encourage you to post your voting paper back today so you don't forget or miss the voting deadline," Mr Peden said.

Preliminary results of the referendum should be available by 8.30pm on Friday, with final results due the following week.”

New Zealanders have voted overwhelmingly to bring back smacking children.
While it may not be word perfect it is a quote from this mornings Australian.
Further by overwhelming numbers the story says 80% voted to ignore the 2 year old law.
A good result for us all, political correctness as always is the few driving the rest, rubbish we let the uniformed inflict on us.
Give your kids a hug in celebration.
And from the same paper? story about kids being removed because dad hits them, needs looking at, fact is description of living conditions could be found in white shanty tents or homes even classy caravans homes in out back Australia.
IF he hurts them its different surely that is the heart of the debate?

Sorry Belly, that's just not how they roll.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2776861/Key-says-no-to-changing-smacking-law

“Pro-smacking campaigners are calling on the Government to fast-track a law change to allow parents to smack their children, after a thumping referendum victory.

But Prime Minister John Key says he will not change the law, and the law's original sponsor, Green MP Sue Bradford, says the question was so flawed the result is meaningless.”