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Why do people say Australia has reached its population quota.
It's a vast land, and largely unpopulated.
Posted by Jacksonn, Friday, 31 July 2009 4:18:19 PM
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Do you know anything about this land?
Have you seen the land just 40 klm inland.
The dry creeks and dams, rivers and streams.
Just a year ago no grass dead horses once family pets.
Have you memory's of crops dead not long after the seed sprouted.
Or seen the massive bush fores sweeping over a thousand acres.
Our country is not like New Zealand, not always green, the soil is not always capable of growing very much at all.
We cluster close to the coast, fail often to understand good reasons for that exist.
Land is not always a measure of population potential, some of ours is desert some never will be home to many.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 1 August 2009 5:09:58 AM
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The human history of this continent says it all:

40 000+ years of occupation by indigenous peoples, who would have either developed agriculture thousands of years ago if the land had been suitable for it or been displaced by Asian agricultural peoples.

The fact that Australia remained in the hands of the Aborigines up until the end of the eighteenth century, and much of it well beyond that time, indicates that it just wasn’t worth colonising by Asian peoples living just to the north that had known about it for thousands of years, or by Europeans later on.

If the Top End or the Kimberleys had been anything remotely as fertile and well watered as Java, they would have been exploited many centuries ago.

Europeans struggled to become established. The population built up slowly. Compare this to the European history of the USA. Soil fertility and rainfall are vastly better in the US. These are the factors that allowed their population to reach a level some fifteen times greater than ours, such is the enormity of the difference. Recent glaciation in North America compared to extremely old undisturbed soils in Australia has a great deal to do with the relative fertilities.

So we are now in a position where there is little doubt that a doubling of our population would be completely disastrous in terms of our ability to support ourselves from what the land can provide. And yet this would still only be a tiny fraction of that of the US, or of Indonesia or China.

Even with the country being run by manic growth-at-all-costs merchants, who are pumping people in as fast as they can, and with our ability to build huge dams, pipelines, etc, the population is still tiny compared to other similar sized land masses….and will always be…..because Australia is mostly desert and semi-desert, for goodness sake!

Jacksonn, can you tell us what you would like to see in regards to population in Australia, with some justification. Thanks.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 1 August 2009 8:15:59 AM
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European-cum-multicultural Australia exists directly because of the same fundamental reasons that lead us to have a small population compared to the size of the land mass!

If Australia was wet and fertile, Aboriginal peoples would have been displaced thousands of years ago by more aggressive agrarian Asian peoples or the Aborigines would have developed agriculture.

If Australia had been occupied by peoples practicing agriculture at the time of European contact, the place would not have been subjected to the lie of Terra Nullius and the European invasion wouldn’t have happened.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 1 August 2009 8:23:05 AM
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All the water we need is in the air and it is easy to get at.
Google "Water from the air machine".
I got 24,000,000 hits.
One firm manufacturing such a machine is in Queensland.
We can do it.

To fertilize the land just put a water bowl on top of a tall pole.
Birds will drink and do their droppings onto the ground.
Taller the pole ,great the the poo distribution or spread it manualy.
Free fertilization of the desert for your plants to grow.
The machine is electical so get a wind generator.You need electricity anyway.

100 hectares of desert for $10,000.
Machine plus generator ,$5000.
Or live in the city and pay $10,000 for a garage for your car?.
Posted by undidly, Saturday, 1 August 2009 10:11:01 AM
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Why do people say Australia has reached its population quota?

Dogma, selfishness and propaganda as illustrated by the above answers.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 1 August 2009 10:25:56 AM
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