Houellebecq “Oh, Col. You don't know what you do to me!”

Watch out of it will be a bucket of cold water instead of a shower… and yes.. “raincoat in the shower” is another expression with which I am familiar

Fractelle “Why am I not surprised that Col?

a) Doesn't get Leonard Cohen
b) Writes creepy posts”

Leonard Cohen is not some “saint” of the music world – with a name like “Cohen” he would be disqualified, I suspect.

Nothing creepy about skin-to-skin, fractelle.

I suppose some of us have got it and those who don’t are usually doing the world a service by staying covered up.

TPP “Where is the fun in starting naked?”

Who said we start in the bedroom?

Fractelle “a significant ex . . . . . then he was a card carrying Republican…”

he must have been "significantly slumming"

“Col managed to contradict his statement with his litany of what HE wears and just revealed himself as a snob.”

Well as we all know you are a self appointed judgmentalist and if you determine that others with standards to be “snobs”, then in “fractelle-world”, I obviously must be one.

Actually I always imagine fractelle wearing a second hand set of those SES utilitarian khaki trousers and bib… along with gum boots…. Hardly what the elegant around town would wear but that also conforms with the fractelle persona - the fashion weary road sweeper around town

Banjo “Col,
You have erroniously attributed those comments to me. Please check.”

You are correct.. I should have addressed the comment to “Peter the Believer”

Please accept my profound apology, Banjo.

Col R...

and maybe Peter the Believer could respond

TPP “Where is the fun in starting naked?”

Col:”Who said we start in the bedroom?”

Touché

Col:

<< Actually I always imagine fractelle wearing a second hand set of those SES utilitarian khaki trousers and bib… along with gum boots…. >>

Har, har, har - only during the fire crisis earlier this year, Col. And I'm told I look cute even in gum-boots.

I guess it is the woman rather than the clothes...

:-)

What an entertaining thread this is! Love the Billy Connolly and Young Ones references... not to mention Leonard. In fact, since I'm home with a vile head cold I just played Cohen's "Democracy" again after reading Piper's comment. I think it's a truly brilliant song:

<<Sail on, sail on
O mighty Ship of State!
To the Shores of Need
Past the Reefs of Greed
Through the Squalls of Hate
Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on.
It's coming to America first,
the cradle of the best and of the worst.
It's here they got the range
and the machinery for change
and it's here they got the spiritual thirst.
It's here the family's broken
and it's here the lonely say
that the heart has got to open
in a fundamental way:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A. >>

I think that this is a pretty straightforward Cohen song - it's an optimistic plea that the USA has to lead the world to true democracy (i.e. 'rule by the people' as opposed to the flawed versions that currently exist) by overcoming its own gross inequalities and internal hatreds, tinged by the irony that the world's foremost "democracy" is from that ideal in practice.

We were lucky enough to hear him (and his superlative band) perform it earlier this year, where it had added resonance due to the recent election of Obama as US Preasident.

Col Rouge: << Leonard Cohen is not some “saint” of the music world – with a name like “Cohen” he would be disqualified, I suspect. >>

Actually, I think that Leonard Cohen is probably one of the closest things that contemporary music has produced to a "saint" in the past 40 years or so. His philosophies, personal lifestyle and disdain for the trappings of stardom are pretty well peerless among 60s music relics. However, I'm not at all surprised that he's not popular among Republicans, nor that Col doesn't "get" him.

I've never paid $300 to see a humbler performer :)

Also, on topic:

Fractelle: << One thing about suits: a suit looks great when the hunky tradie dons a suit for a special event - suits look great when the man attired in such doesn't usually wear them. >>

It has to be said that Leonard Cohen, although the antithesis of a "hunky tradie", is one of those guys who don't usually wear suits, but looks great in one. As a septuagenarian, he wears a pin-stripe and fedora with incomparable style.