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Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 27 June 2009 9:35:05 AM
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The problem with law is it’s a killer. Law and justice are two different things, and the abused little ones, had lots of law but no justice. We in Australia today, have lots of law, but justice is a very scarce commodity, mainly because the Commonwealth is a weak and timid power, prepared to continue to let States as tails wag the Commonwealth dog.
The people the Commonwealth selects to man its law courts, are strong on law, but weak on justice. They have no idea what justice is, but ask them about law, and they go on and on. Every now and again we get a good one, or by luck we get a good decision out of the High Court, but it is almost mandatory for the High Court these days to fail to deliver justice. There is a law that says they can refuse justice, but it is not a court of justice when it uses it. There should be only one test applied by the High Court, to every case brought to them and that should be, was it decided by a jury trial. If not, go back and do it again, according to law. If done according to law, then justice will be done. The law of the New Testament is the law of justice, the OT law was just that , law. The very idea of a code was anathema to the New Testament. Should the High Court adopt this suggestion, that they become a Federal Supreme Court as promised in S 71 Constitution, and accept that as the court of the Supreme Being, which is not the Queen, but a higher authority, the three elements of justice, taught as the Trinity, the centrality of Christianity, be adopted by them. A fully functional Federal Supreme Court would severely cripple the States. The child abuse the States condoned would never have been allowed to continue, if the seven High Court Justices in 1952, had not made it a Court of Law, instead of a court of justice. When Rules deny justice tyranny rules Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 27 June 2009 9:57:36 AM
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One of the commandments of Jesus Christ was, at the very end of the Gospel of John, after the first mens breakfast, between the resurrected Jesus, and the disciples on the sea of Galillee, were feed my lambs, and feed my sheep, because He was the Good Shepherd. The machinery to feed the lambs and feed his sheep, was put in place, and a system or hierarchy of divine authority was established to make sure this happened. The Supreme Court as representing the Queen, who was delegate of Almighty God, was the parens patriae, the father of the nation, and its duty was to ensure no children were abused, and no widow starved.
As the Supreme Courts in every State have shut down, and Law Courts have replaced courts of justice, the cases of child abuse have multiplied and increased. The woman crying at the loss of her child to an abusing parent, has nowhere to go, because the High Court is now a heartless monster, created by a heartless and indifferent State, called the Commonwealth. The magnificent dream, of a fair just and honest society supervised by a Federal Supreme Court was shattered in 1979, and the High Court of Australia Act 1979. As it was made into a corporation, with a CEO it became a private business, and in 1983, requested and got Parliamentary authority, to refuse most work brought to it, by desperate Australians. The Statutory command, there shall be a Federal Supreme Court, in S 71 Constitution, has meant nothing since 1952. With the head of justice cut off, isolated and neutralized, the States continued to dismantle their courts of justice, and substitute Courts of Law. All nine States are in the act these days. The supposed Guardian, the Commonwealth is a prime offender. It thinks Centrelink will do the job, and most officers there are compassionate, but there is no substitute for a Guardian, to whom injustice can be taken for a remedy. If KR delivers on a promise made to uphold the Constitution, he will read S 77(i) Constitution. Fix the Federal Supreme Court Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 27 June 2009 10:31:29 AM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2840&page=5
This was from huffnpuff recently. Through wondering about Australian sites I come upon people in pain because they have had their own children taken or they have suffered like huffnpuff did because of this system. What has become obvious to me is that their own pain and lack of resolution leaves them trapped within their history and the grief. It is amazing what an apology or an acceptance or just an acknowledgment from an authority can do to alleviate some of the pain. But they need to be healed and my experience with people leaves me having to acknowledge that often the broken cannot themselves mend others. It is a quandary for me, for a government to issue an apology it would be based on the belief that the circumstances that lead to so many damaged peoples has come to an end. The new circumstances that the government in NSW is now implementing will in my opinion have the same result and cause the same damage. I want these ones to get their apology but I fail to see how an apology can be given while there is no end in sight. Posted by The Pied Piper, Saturday, 27 June 2009 10:38:08 AM
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If I was one of the 'Forgotten Australians' I think I'd be really quite offended by a godbothering frootloop like Peter the Babbler utilising my suffering as an excuse to get on his soapbox and try to hijack yet another discussion.
Fortunately, I don't think anybody takes much notice of his raving. Heaven help anybody unfortunate enough to have him as an advocate. Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 27 June 2009 10:41:45 AM
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CJ I do believe you have left your sleeping place this morning on the less used side.
I read and read Peters posts, I think he needs someone to translate for him because people like me have the odd epiphany when reading about his Justice stuff but not enough to comprehend in full what is being said. What I have managed to grasp is that it could really help everybody and because he understands what it could do he is attempting to pass on the knowledge. Threads that are discussing injustice or abuse because of the Laws we have seem to be the appropriate ones for him to make his point. But yeah I so need a simplified version. Just as I was typing this I was approached by a small Yet To BE Forgotten One and they are about to lose their very first tooth! Through witnessing much tragedy in these wee lives sometimes I get to be part of something amazing. Okay so I am a bit easily pleased and shouldn’t be going on about it here but hey I’m in the moment and can’t wipe the grin off my face! Posted by The Pied Piper, Saturday, 27 June 2009 11:41:23 AM
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This Jewish man rejected the concept adopted by his ancestors, and delivered on the prophesies made by the prophets who came before him. It was promised that He would bring good government. The English took his teachings to heart, and by virtue of ruling the whole of the British Isles, extended justice throughout. The first cry in Australia was for this perfect justice to be established as soon as possible.
The abuse of 500,000 young people, more or less could only happen because the perfect justice, that should have been in place, was broken down, the power of good men and women diluted and made nugatory, and little kings, who thought they were answerable to no one, created to serve the State by States, whose responsibility most of these children were.
The fault lies in S 116 Constitution. Before it was enacted all Judges and Magistrates and Justices of the Peace, were required to be Protestant Christian. If moral turpitude was detected, the Church could excommunicate the offender, and excommunication meant that their power was gone.
It would not matter so much if Judges and Magistrates were required to be proficient in punctuation, and instead of having to do about two semesters on the Australian Constitution were required to go right into it, its antecedents and history, and the whole pyramid of laws upon which it sits.
The Constitution is framed to deliver perfect justice. It is supposed to be the paramount law in Australia and properly read, using the mandated extrinsic material, necessary for its understanding, the Holy Bible, and the Statutes derived from that Book, supersedes and makes nugatory, an enormous amount of accepted law