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Should Criminal Charges Be Laid Over Mr Ward's Death in Custody?

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I suspect if it happened to a Caucasian there wouldn’t be as much media attention Professor.

The same thing is happening to all races and creeds of children in foster care through the government contracting out the care of children to NGO’s. Sorry, I will take that back to my own thread.

Is there a law or an act where being humane/doing the right thing by another human dominates any work order/direct command by a superior?

Are people in Australia supported to do what is right? Peter?
Posted by The Pied Piper, Monday, 22 June 2009 1:52:56 PM
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criminal justice systems
have been actively recruiting indigenous staff for decades
to prevent exactly this same act of genocide.

this is very much an issue of race,
aspersion otherwise perpetuates the genocide.
Posted by whistler, Monday, 22 June 2009 2:05:20 PM
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Thanks to all for the excellent responses. It's heartening to see that we're all apparently revolted by this appalling and needless death.

A couple of people have mentioned one of the factors that was instrumental in Mr Ward's shocking treatment, i.e. that he wasn't bailed the morning after his arrest for a relatively trivial offence. Why was it deemed to necessary to remand this respected community elder in custody, thus necessitating the transportation that killed him?

It's hard to escape the conclusion that this was an example of structural racism, given that this is not the kind of treatment that is generally meted out to non-Aboriginal offenders who are arrested for drink driving. Even if the prison van was of a humane standard and the guards weren't callous bastards, what exactly is achieved by incarcerating people on such charges hundreds of kilometres from their homes prior to their appearance in court? If nothing else, isn't it an extremely expensive practice?

There are also reports of similar treatment of immigration detainees by another private company, in South Australia as I recall. We shouldn't let these commercial enterprises who profit by mistreating human beings get away with it.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 22 June 2009 3:42:48 PM
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The blame for the death of this poor man must fall right back on Bob Menzies, and the seven High Court Justices, who in 1953, established the High Court as a privatised lawyers club, for superannuated barristers. When these seven gave in to a request from Ming the Merciless, to install Order 58 Rule 4 Subrule 3, in the High Court Rules 1953, they signed the death warrants of not just Mr Ward, but thousands like him both black and white throughout the length and breadth of Australia.

Western Australia was the last State to go bad, but they have gradually all gone bad, because the head was cut off the Australian Justice System, when this naked power grab, by the lawyers was allowed to pass unchallenged. That lawyers in Parliament have allowed it to continue, is just a commentary on their general unsuitability for high office. When there was a total act of insubordination, by the seven, in the High Court Rules 2004 where they have deliberately contradicted S 33 High Court of Australia Act 1979 again, not one lawyer in Parliament murmured.

Dictators of both major parties have long chafed under the rule of law, and the Labor Party was probably not unhappy when the High Court was privatized in 1953. When in 1972, led by a lawyer, Labor frightened the living bejasus out of the population for three years, the lawyer at its head had no fear of the High Court. Menzies had nobbled it for his fellow barrister 19 years earlier.

The privatization of the High Court, has led to the privatization of every Court in Australia, and they are the wholly owned subsidiaries of whichever State erected them. They are the death of the Commonwealth. They have allowed each State to claim it is a sovereign in its own right, nine of the mongrels, and each and every member of each and every High Court since 1953, who has allowed this scam, the privatization of the Federal Supreme Court, should be called to account, not in the after life, but here and now.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 4:36:20 AM
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When that lovely Mr Rudd said sorry to the stolen generation, he should have followed it up with some remedial action. He still has time to do so. The real reason he had to say sorry, and it was a fully justified sorry, was because the Federal Court of Australia has been a private corporation since its inception. The privatization of courts, note the lack of a Capital letter, and the removal of democratic participation in them, except in the Parliaments, was achieved by illegal legislation.

When O’Loughlin J, a Judge in the Federal Court, took seven hundred pages to justify the stolen generation, and deny Lorna Cubillo and Peter Gunner justice, in 2000, an apology was definitely called for. No apology would have been needed for the four years since 1996, that O’Loughlin J took to decide, until 2000, if a jury trial was held, and a verdict given immediately. No apology would have been needed if O’Loughlin J was an honest man. Judges are inherently dishonest.

They have been living in a cloud of dishonesty since they allowed the oxymoron Australia Act 1986 to be accepted as authority for the full privatization of Australian Courts. It is an oxymoron because it both continues and repeals the Australian Constitution. It destroys the Commonwealth, and has allowed the full privatization of all courts, and the destruction of all private property.

The fog of dishonesty has extended, as they ignored their lawyers training, to refuse to recognize that the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights was legitimately enacted in 1986, about six months after the Australia Act 1986 and fully qualified its enactment.

The people who should be indicted and tried for the death of Mr Ward, are the Sergeant of Police at Laverton, and the magistrate who remanded him in custody. So too should the people who have allowed this tyranny to continue for so long. The courts, not the Courts, have the power to call down the wrath of the people on the oppressors. How many more innocents must die by suicide or murder before democracy is restored
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 9:23:03 AM
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Sorry if I missed it in here, but what did the coroner conclude?.

...has anyone BEEN charged?.

If anything, charges should ago against the company. Maybe the employees as well if they did anything against procedure. If they did what their SOP's stated they should do and got fired anyway they should sue the company.

Lot of details missing to try and offer a serious opinion.
Posted by StG, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 5:44:57 PM
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