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“Examinator says democracy is majority rule. He is wrong. Majority rule is tribalism.”
Now that’s a weird statement! I was under the impression that tribes were ruled by the “Big Man” system, hereditary or elected, and a system such as we have was called democracy, as a lot of nations now are. More or less anyway. Peter, you were doing fine, but have slipped back to grinding the same old axe, can’t be much of it left now?
As for Antarctica, you seem to have missed a couple of details, such as continental drift, and the shifting axis of the planet, not to mention the odd ice-age or three.
I agree Australia can’t make a huge difference, and given the fact that the super-nations and emerging economies won’t stop polluting, there’s little point in gutting ourselves.
We’d do better to start “storm-proofing” our essential services, supplies, and population centres, it’s going to be a big ‘un!
Your stance on God and your Christianity is all well and good, but it won’t feed us or save us.
“God helps those who help themselves” would seem to apply here, and your God has a nasty habit of bringing down “fire and brimstone”, so to speak, on sinners and saints alike, so I'll be damned if I’m going to rely on his moods!
Posted by Maximillion, Friday, 19 June 2009 7:59:48 AM
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Examinator;
You seem to be requiring Senator Fielding adopt the
labour party policy of if the party says jump you reply how high or
else you lose your nomination at the next election.

He said is aware of the risk that he could lose votes but he felt that
ha had to have more information before he votes.
A pity we don't have more like him.

He had a meeting with Senator Wong only to find that the government
has moved the goal posts.
They have changed the temperature measurements from global temperatures to ocean temperatures.
Has the IPCC made the same change and if so why ?

No wonder people like me can't get a handle on the subject.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 19 June 2009 8:04:57 AM
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It appears that the meeting with Senator Wong was anything but
enlightening.
It would seem that the Senator or her advisers were not really able to answer the questions.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,25656849-17803,00.html

It seems that in these circumstances the whole ETS project should be
put on hold until they can get it sorted in their own mind at least.

It is one hell of a lot of money to spend on a "err well you see hmm
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 19 June 2009 3:50:34 PM
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I have just come across an item about the IPCC projections.
From the item it appears that the IPCC computer model projections
are based on a business as usual, ie increasing fossil fuel use based
on growth projections of the past.

The writer suggests that if the real world estimations of coal oil and
gas are taken into account then if we do nothing at all about CO2
the increase in temperature will be less than the 2deg C that
everyone is worrying about.

Anyway here is the link so go and read it for yourself.

http://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/news/article/default.aspx?objid=60534
Whoops here is a tiny link,

http://tinyurl.com/nl4xrf
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 20 June 2009 12:04:50 PM
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