have a crack at this!
one bloke's trying to reconcile growth with sustainability.
the next bloke's a preacher.
then there's the bloke whose totally confused,
the dreamer.
blessings reader,
men rule!

I didn't really believe in the existence of parallel universes, whistler, until you joined the forum with your "wimmins legislature" mantra.

But I can't let this pass.

"men crash the global economy and then sit around endlessly twiddling their thumbs"

The global economy is under pressure right now, as a direct result of the over-use of credit, and borrowings in general.

Now I don't know about your universe, but in mine, the "significant spender" of the household is most definitely female.

She decides (or vetoes) all capital expenditure, including the key items such as where we live, when we renovate, when we buy a new car (although I have managed to resist that particular one), when we buy new furniture, when we buy new carpets/curtains/bedsheets/kitchen appliances/lighting etc. etc.

The only items left are unavoidable expenses such as food and petrol, plus the repair or replacement of the vacuum cleaner/washing machine/fridge etc.

When you examine the Pericles' household's contribution to our accumulated debt, my portion pales in comparison to 'er indoors'.

So let's put this canard finally to bed, shall we? And rephrase it as...

"women crash the global economy and then run around endlessly nagging men to do something about it"

Pericles

I don't really 'get' whistler and I do get very irate whenever someone tries on generalisations or stereotypes. As she has done often. But you?

Your post is just appalling.

Mark out of 10:

-5

1. >> 'er indoors' <<

hasn't applied since Howard's halcyon days circa 1950's - and then only to middle and upperclass women who were totally dependent on the largesse of their husbands. Marjority of women have always worked - factories, field, laundries etc.

2. Returning to the 21st century women may well have contributed to the GFC, if so, it was as stock-traders, bankers and realtors wanting feed off a contrived housing market, just like the men-folks.

3. As for women nagging? It is what men do but for men it is called 'delegating'.

If you really believe in what you have written above, I have given you more intelligence than you clearly possess.

Conclusion:

Showed promise,but that's all folks.

Businesses are ONLY interested for the PROFIT, they do not care for you or me, for Adelaide or Australia, the word "my homeland" does not exist for them, exept if they benefit from it. If they find higher profit in China, they will go to china, they do not care at all for the communist ragime or for human rights.! If they have more profits destroying our environment they will destroy it, if they have more profit from the international financial crisis they will do it and they do not care at all for the cost of the crisis on hundrens of millions of people.
Business's rule is very simple TAKE THE RISK AND MAKE MONEY!
Politicians want the power, to govern a country. They know VERY WELL that we, the ordinary people, do not use our brain very often or very well, that we have weak memory and we trust anyone! They know that we do what the mass media tell us(with their way) to do. Because we are so weak, politicians prefer to cooperate with the mass media OUR ROLE AS SITIZENS IS WEAK AND IT BECOME WEAKER AS THE MASS MEDIA PASS TO LESS HANDS (LESS OWNERS).
The owners of the mass media does not care at all for politicians exept if they have money and promised more money or other benefits when they will govern! But politicians are not bilionaires, in realy they have not enouph money for their officces and their personel, they do not have enouph money for the elections camaignes which cost very much. Politicians like it or not, they have to go to the banks!
You can not imagine what means to depend on the banks!
In realy politicians are pawn of the mass media and the banks, NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT IT BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT STRONG ENOUPH TO UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT THEM!
Politicians reflect the quality of the citizens in their country.
It is easier to tell who is not driving the bus, THE CITIZENS than to find who realy is driving the bus.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Thanks for the vote of confidence Fractelle.

>>If you really believe in what you have written above, I have given you more intelligence than you clearly possess.<<

(I always wondered where I got it from..!)

Just think of my theory as being designed to be as credible, meaningful and intelligent as whistler's offerings.

Which of course fully justifies your broadside, and convinces me that I had reached exactly the right level.

Have a great day.

Pericles

">>If you really believe in what you have written above, I have given you more intelligence than you clearly possess.<<"

I knew I should've kept my intelligence to myself.

At least we are agreed that your offering equalled that of Whistler's. However, I have learned not to expect any more from her. But I do expect better from you. There are already enough middle aged men on OLO, whose minds haven't left the 50's (which would explain their arrested development) and who regularly vent their bitterness on any woman with an opinion. Did you really have to add to the chorus?

As a result, I did get to reminiscing just where we ever reach an agreement and realised that field was rather arid; only on religion do we really see eye to eye.

I believe in regulated capitalism, competitive market for innovation and regulation by government to keep the bastards honest. From what I understand you tend to affiliate yourself with Col's XXX rated rampant capitalism. Which also means, congratulations where it is due. Non-reg-Capitalism is in the driver's seat!

I keep pets. You see them as slaves. I believe in ecological diversity - you see saving the natural habitat as a waste of time.

I believe in paid parental leave. I want to see more responsibility from both parents in child raising. You don't.

And you say "tomayto" and I say "tomahto".

Remember when we mentioned the "respect" thing? Well, you can't rest on your laurels.

Have a great day.