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Belly,
While I acknowledge the abilty of Mundine, I lump him with John Maconroe in that I dislike their attitude and their big mouths. Ali also had a big mouth, but he had a wit as well.

I have far more respect for sports people who simply get on with the business, like Rodger Federah and kathy Freeman and Ian Thourpe. We can be proud that we have produced some great sports stars over the years and I acknowledge that, irrespective of their heritage.

This week, in the Daily Telegraph, there was an article about the number of aboriginals that have gained academic qualifacations. The number seems to be rising and that is to be applauded considering what may be the background of many. I hold these acheivers in far greater esteem that all the loud mouths put together.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:20:59 AM
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I understood the thread would bring posters who do not like sport.
I feared it may bring fruit cakes who do not like his race.
But I love sport, watch boxing always, if only to see the bloke knocked out.
Find me such a sports man or woman, any one, so disliked by the sporting public.
A photo of the man out cold on the canvas is on display in a sports mans bar in tourist county.
He may win more world titles but it is unlikely he will win hearts.
I got the story not from named above it was the Sydney daily tele
Well worth a read.
IMO racism is always bad always, but sometimes the term is miss used sometimes those using it may be very close to racists.
Anthony like me, will find way to watch our team, his past one mine still tonight.
But if only he would drop the needless tripe that comes too often, let us tell you how good you are bloke not the other way around.
Clay had wit, however only the letter T separates that word from Twit.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 29 May 2009 3:46:01 PM
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Belly,
My point was anti racial i thought that was the point.
I don't hate sport I simply detest the abject adoration of it and it's temporary heroes or any other discretionary activity. Give me an activity that leaves a long lasting benefit for all any day.
You and I have a major disagreement that boxing is sport. To me sport is supposed to improve the individual not sent a clear mind into a never ending fog of brain damage. It's the only sport where more people are damaged from it than benefit.
Mundine is a fighter not a boxer. Ali was both.
Anyhow have a good night.
Posted by examinator, Friday, 29 May 2009 4:19:42 PM
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Dear Belly,

Why couldn't this incident have been handled
by the refs? How come the press got involved?

I'm sure that sportsmen of all persuasions say
things to antagonize each other on the field
all the time. I imagine it's all part of the
game. You give as good as you get. And, most
don't take the taunts seriously. It's simply
a provocation tactic, usually with no serious
harm intended.

This incident seems to have gone one step further
than it should have. And I'm wondering why?

I'm not advocating racial slurs by any means.
But, in this case couldn't the incident have
been handled differently? Why bring the press
into it?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 29 May 2009 4:41:04 PM
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foxey..<,why bring the press into it>>..because those who live within the public eye deserve to be exposed in the public eye..[they ewant fame ..well everything they do is claimed to be news]be it a tiny groin strain or some ego-based racist delusion of supiriority

the other answer is myth-making..[not the obvious myth making as in making faulse sporting gods of destraction..BUT the myth the media is fair and balanced..[reporting both sides]...by applying that rule only to sport..they yet create belief of fair and balanced reportage

its far from true..in the real news..[however]..but such is the nature of the mythmakers,..different rules for sport/different rules for the real news...

think of it as an equivelency of the page 3 girl,..cept sport is eye candy for those suppressing homo-erotic tendancies..any writing is only designed to give the vision their intended meaning

[they must keep the advertisers in mind...and create the myth to sell the product..[and keep the public distracted]..its part of the game they play..[and the myth,..the commercial illusion..they are constantly trying to re-make]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 May 2009 5:59:35 PM
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I had no thought of examinator in mind when I made those remarks.
I however wonder about the idea that those opposed to sport, any sport some times have got it right.
Foxy this is totally different,I hoped we could debate the man, and his trash talking persona.
See its not football, its boxing, his suporters stood along side the judge, not ref, watched as he filled in his round by round score card.
If he gave points to the opponent? he was called racist!
Mundine was told during the fight, it was intended he would not be able to win.
Now lets look at this man, is his behavior a persona? is it put on to earn more money from his fights?
Can we talk about racism without being racists?
I think yes.
I think some actions of this bloke, some of his supporters, are wrong, and sail close to being seen as, racist.
And no way existed for those officials to do anything about weak behavior without? being branded racist
I have no time for Anthony, he is a truely great sporting performer, has talent to burn, but in my view never will be a sports man.
One day, in my opinion, he will tell us this is just and act, just money earning self promotion.
Had he acted like his dad this man would have been much loved and respected.
Again in a land that is in love with its sports men and women this man insists on telling us how good he is, not letting us tell him.
strange indeed but that is the puzzel of the man.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 30 May 2009 6:22:03 AM
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