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the cost of injury at work

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The official figures clearly illustrates just how the corporations have been able to play one Australian state off against another. The figures show just how successful they have been, when the employers paid only $1.9 Billion costs in 2005-2006 compared with the workers share at $26.03 billion with the rest of society carrying the can back at a cool $29.49 billion.

My god, the death toll of 1790 killed directly and by work related diseases is higher than the road toll and more than all the troops we have overseas.

If we were losing 34 soldiers a week in Afghanistan we would be in deep mourning.
So why is this any different?
On top of that fully incapacitated or seriously wounded, (using the army analogy) of 39,510 or 780 a week would mean a catastrophic military blunder.
So why are we accepting such figures at the hands of our cowardly politicians and their corporate masters?

I’ll tell you why!!

Because no one pays attention, except for those bloody unions John Howard has taught us to despise.
As a result we have let ourselves become victims of the Corporations that Abraham Lincoln was so concerned about. Seems to me, he foretold the current events accurately, and what’s more the whole world ought to have another revolution, write a new Declaration of Independence and rip away the unbounded power these corporate ‘persons’ have taken upon themselves.

John Ward

Data From 'The Cost of Work-related injury And Illness for Australian Employers, Workers and the Community’. ISBN 978 0 642 32801 4 PDF

Year 2000-01 $billion 34 or 5% of GDP

In year 2005-2006 $billion 57.5 or 5.9 of GD
Posted by John Jawrence Ward, Monday, 18 May 2009 1:44:57 PM
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Thanks for the thread John, you will not win.
I took on such a task evidence clearly showed my workmates died early in big numbers.
As a result of long term exposure to cold tar, and fumes from traffic.
These road workers had a average exposure of over 20 years.
I could not get one inch of progress from the RTA, DMR both being the single identity with different names.
At one time [ how many may it be?] a truck roll over saw very dangerous poison and radio active matter in one load.
With food part of that load, 2 serving police men fell very ill, over 30 road workers had blood tests.
I was one of them, the RTA NEVER even told us the results!
They no longer existed three years later, I forced an investigation but they had been shredded.
Steel works cancer deaths and road worker deaths are bigger than any other workplace issue, any of them, true.
Working back we saw figures over 30% in roads alone dead of cancer.
You will not win, white wash is cheap honesty of little value to some
but thanks any way.
Consider this, in my workplace and time we went to at least 200 truck roll overs goods all over the road unknown even now what some of it was?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 May 2009 4:04:18 PM
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we allready discussed this issue on another topic[i was going to add this to that]

keep in mind,the purpose of incorporation is to shield individuals from personal liability or accountability to the public),..a corporation itself cannot be imprisoned.

Further,while a corporation might be fined or otherwise punished by a court,the people who made decisions can go elsewhere and continue as they have...just get a job elsewhere,the sanctions don’t follow him.

Corporations can further shield themselves by creating other corporations which they own and control but which protect the greater corporation from financial or legal liability.



A human..‘person’..has duties to perform in their society. A human..‘person’.can be called to serve on a jury as provided for in The Constitution.

No corporate‘person’is capable of fulfilling the obligations or duty of service to their country of an individual.

A human‘person’ dies..How long can a human‘person’be part of the workforce?How long can they provide for themselves and make their own decisions?

How long can a human‘person’keep death at bay? While a corporation might go belly up,or be bought or just end by a decision of those at the top,

a corporation,a corporate person’,has no natural lifespan and can,in principle,go on living forever..maybe a restructuring here and there or a name change but,none-the-less,the same legal ‘person’.

..however,there is also a legal flaw which should be addressed within the Constitutional framework of accepting corporations as‘persons’… a‘person’can’t be owned in the United States.

The idea of corporations as ‘persons’ was ‘found’ by the Court..doesn’t the 13th Amendment also apply to them?

“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,shall exist within the United States,or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Now,go to any dictionary you can find and look up,in order,slavery and slave...I’ll wait.

No‘person’can own another person’in the United States.

Therefore,if a corporation IS a legal person’..under the protection and jurisdiction of The Constitution,..doesn’t that mean that they can’t be owned,..and that they cannot own other..‘persons’..i.e. – other corporations).

If The Constitution applies to the Corporate'person’,..doesn’t that mean that the WHOLE Constitution applies to them?
http://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/the-corporate-person/
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 May 2009 4:42:15 PM
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<<Further,while a corporation might be fined or otherwise punished by a court,the people who made decisions can go elsewhere and continue as they have...just get a job elsewhere,the sanctions don’t follow him.>>i think enron is the case in point[see how its poisen has spread globally

<<Corporations can further shield themselves by creating other corporations which they own and control but which protect the greater corporation from financial or legal liability.>>witness hardies[re asbestosis]leaves behind an under capitalised arm behind and runs away to the netherlands

birth place of the bilderburgers[the 150 dudes natzie supporters who formed their boys type club of rome privatly in 44 and became quietly public in 54//[with plans now fullfiled to create the eu and take over politics via taking over usa,and bring in a global carbon tax..[it allready controled the banks]
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 9:04:54 AM
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This is an enormous problem, and can be fixed with one stroke of the Prime Ministerial pen. Kevin Rudd, on the 7th August 2006, while not yet leader of the Opposition, was heard to tell a supporter after delivering a public plea to support the Labor Party, because we are Christians too, that no one can overturn the Constitution without a referendum.

It has not only been overturned, it has been completely repealed by one simple section of one Act, S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976. This gives one Judge power to decide who gets paid compo. Bernie Banton was kept at bay by Hardie’s lawyers until he died, because one Judge, is in control. These same Judges make Rules, like Mohammed made Rules for Muslims, and one of them is Order 46 Rule 7A Federal Court Rules. This allows a Registrar and a Judge, to deny access to court, to anyone who would like some justice.

Everyone, including a State and Federal government department has a duty to supply a safe workplace. This is a very old principle of the common law. Actions at common law saw safety barriers installed around unsafe machinery. Law is made just as effectively in a common law court as it is in Parliament. That is why the word court has no capital letter when it stands alone in the Ch III Australian Constitution. The abominations that atheists have foisted upon us, in pretend Courts, where a very highly paid public servant ( $6,000 a week) has robbed us of our dignity and rights at work, should be called to account.

The Labor Party has been infiltrated by lawyers. The Liberal Party is their natural home. All members of the 65% majority Christians in Australia should unite to request Kevin Rudd to give us back the Christian common law, abolished by State and Federal Parliaments since 1970, by simply repealing S 39 Federal Court of Australia Act 1976 and letting the laws made by Paul Keating’s government be enforced, by anyone who has been harmed. Your Rights at Work, you betcha
Posted by Peter the Believer, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 10:56:31 AM
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The Unions did a lot of stupid things in the 70's 80's and 90's. They not only attacked big business but destroyed a lot of small business.I deal with dangerous tools every day,yet with all the OH&S regulation refuse to take on an apprentice since a workers comp claim can send me broke.The young people of today ,do not have a work ethic and in the tradition of our litigious society are often looking for the gravy train of an easy payout.

Presently the NSW Govt is recruiting more OH&S officers.This is just another way for them to increase revenue and further destroy small business in NSW.The size of Govt in this country must diminish comeasurate with their tax income.We cannot go into debt just to support non productive public servants.

The people of NSW will soon be that safe,that they will not have a job nor the means of putting food on the table.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 10:58:56 PM
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