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Proposition H1N1

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Horus,

Yes you are right many claims on the effects of CC are are made without specific evidence as in the cases you site. There is a certain amount of jumping on the CC bandwagon which is unfortunate but I guess understandable.

The science is extremely complicated especially when it comes to predicting the future but if the hypothesis on CC is right it is also extremely urgent that we do something about the problem; hence a bit of panic and clutching at straws to convince those who don't know or particularly care about the issue.

The thing is that CC is only the most prominent of environmental stresses facing the world - all brought on by rampant population growth and growth in consumption, and by the technological developments that have made these possible. If we address it (CC) we are going some way to addressing all the other problems.

What has not been said nearly enough and is certainly ignored by governments is that our whole value system has to change so the focus shifts from perpetual growth to stabilizing and even reducing both population and consumption growth. Otherwise alas our complex civilization will disintegrate.
Posted by kulu, Saturday, 9 May 2009 12:14:07 PM
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We are all going to die. We all hope it will not be soon, although I have known people who wanted to die today and did. We don’t want to be murdered, or falsely imprisoned, but it happens to some. We don’t want to get Bird Flu, or Pig Flu, or that nasty flu that killed millions after WWI: But it happens. Now with mass communications, it can spread quicker, and we know about it instantly. It sells newspapers, and gets us to turn our News on.

So why panic. You know my views on religion. I simply admire a man who knew he was going to die very painfully, who refused to take the easy way out. They beat the living daylights out of him, and hung him by nails on a cross until he was dead. The best governed people in the world believe he proved his point by returning to show that death is not final.

How many of you know a Celtic woman with a gift of what the Scots called fey. It used to get the women with this gift, burned at the stake, because the Churchmen judged it a gift from Satan. But they still exist. Some men have it too.

I have known such women. They thought everyone was like that. It came as a shock when as teenagers they found it frightened people. The Scots and Irish have known about them for ever. Somehow or other they have a special relationship, with the spirit world. My preacher friends who have been missionaries to places like Africa and PNG tell me that primitive peoples still have close ties to Spirits, and when they find out about the Holy Spirit, have no trouble accepting it. I know two whitemen who have had guns put to their heads in these countries, and had the trigger pulled three times, and three shells ejected, ( they kept them) with indents on the firing pin, but are still here.

A faith in the goodness of Almighty God is what saved them. Their work for God was unfinished
Posted by Peter the Believer, Saturday, 9 May 2009 1:00:10 PM
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