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Should We Train Leaders Based on Their Religious Belief?
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Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 10:19:38 AM
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If Muslims get into positions where they can make important decisions
it will be the end for female equality and for democracy. Train them to be secular. Religion is nonsense. Look at the state of the countries they come from. Bring it here?. NO THANKS. Posted by undidly, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 10:39:30 AM
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Foxy,
You were right after all. Sort of... There are also leadership training programs for young Christians held at the University of Queensland, except these are run by Christian groups and the participants pay all the costs. The University merely provides the venue. Comparing the two: "There is to be a leadership training program for young Christians. It is to be held at the University of Queensland. The program extends over 7 days. It will cost each participant $675. http://www.compass.org.au/pages/2009_Brochure_AU_web.pdf There is to be a leadership training program for young Muslims. It is to be held at the Latrobe Victoria, plus a 3 capital-city study tour. The program extends over 21 days. There are no costs for the participants as it is fully subsidised by the Federal and Victorian Governments. http://www.icv.org.au/files/muslim_training_programme_2009.pdf " http://www.acl.org.au/national/browse.stw?article_id=27329 7 days for $675 at participants cost vs 21 days fully taxpayer funded? Sounds like jizya to me. I emailed the Centre for Dialogue 48 hours ago enquiring as to other programs they run for other religious groups but have received no reply. Posted by KMB, Thursday, 7 May 2009 10:49:02 PM
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Dear KMB,
Firstly let me say how pleased I am that you actually went to the trouble of emailing the Centre for Dialogue about their programs. I'll keep my fingers-crossed that they will reply. Anyway - you've now gone up in my esteem. Well done - it just shows me that I've possibly misjudged you. Well done. Perhaps you'd now like to google, "The Centre for Dialogue," yourself and find out what they're all about - I think that would also help you understand things better. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 May 2009 10:58:44 PM
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Foxy,
That's where I got their email address from! Posted by KMB, Thursday, 7 May 2009 11:04:17 PM
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Dear KMB,
Fair enough! Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 May 2009 11:09:13 PM
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Again, you're simply focusing on only one thing.
You looking at one program that is currently
running - and you're assuming that this is being
done to the exclusion of other faiths. It isn't.
As I said in my previous post - the Centre has only
been running since late 2006. It was set up to
specialise in the theory and practice of dialogue
across ALL religious, cultural, political and
economic dimensions both nationally and internationally.
That is its purpose.
It has on its Board of Advisors - representatives from
the Buddhist Council of Australia, Pax Christi Victoria,
Australian Catholic University, Uniting Church of Australia,
Jewish Community Council of Victoria, Victorian Council of
Churches just to name a few. The Bishop of the Anglican
Diocese of Melbourne's Northern Region - Right Reverand Phillip
Huggins is on the Board of Management.
Surely this to you must indicate that this a Centre
that covers all faiths, and not just the one program
that is currently running and on which you've chosen to focus.
No one is being excluded - except by you.
The aim of the Centre is
about inclusion - not exclusion - as the management and
organisation of the Centre itself clearly indicates.
Again, as I said in my previous post - give them a ring -
ask about other programs - satisfy yourself. The reason
the Centre was set up was to promote greater understanding
and tolerance between different societies, cultures, and
faiths. But then if you'd really read the initial website
that I gave you'd realize and understand that - I suspect
you didn't read anything that I've previously posted.
All that's stuck in your mind is only one thing. Which
of course prevents you from seeing the entire picture.