ASymeonakis,
Unfortunately, progressives are censorious by nature so your plea for tolerance of diverse opinions will go unheeded.

More sitting around in a circle deciding just what actually defines those bad kids, those... other.

As far as I can see on OLO a troll is someone who doesn't agree with the established user base.
Get into the clique and you can sit around like this and determine who the troublesome users are,
what makes them so troublesome and how they should be excluded.

Here's an example of established user behaviour that would be considered trolling if it were done by anyone else....

Making the statement 'Do you believe these men? They don't judge women by appearance first? Ever?'

Having it pointed out to you by 6 male posters that they DO in fact check women out.

Ignoring this and continually going on about how these male posters are being 'dishonest' and 'telling huge porkies'.

Starting a new thread about how you found this amazing that 'a number of male posters denied assessing women in a sexual way'
, and that ', if I make the above claims I am subjected to attack, innuendo and outright insult. For stating the truth no less.'

Having it pointed out again with 6 quotes that prove you are mistaken, and that you have called people liars for no reason.

Ignoring the post, but going back to the origninal thread to end it off with 'Graham's claim that men don't judge women by appearance first. '

i.e. Misrepresent a bunch of posters,
ignore any clarification,
call them all liars, but then yell,
'I'm such a victim for telling the truth!'

I think really we should be making topics not about trolling,
but on playing the victim all the time
and passive aggressive behaviour.

Antonios,

'The Limits on the limits and the rules on the rules will push the members far from the forum.'

Exactly.
OLO seems to me like a bowling club wanting
new members and trying to survive,
while snearing at every potential new member who walks in the door,
and calling for an ever stricter dress code while ignoring
that those inside the club don't adhere to it.

Dear Houellebecq,

Well, I'm glad you got that off your chest.

The purpose of this thread was not to finger-point
Dear Heart, but to discuss the topic.

If you want to discuss "victims," and such, you're
welcome to start your own thread.

Anyway, as another poster pointed out - we sometimes
forget that this Forum is supposed to be about
social and political debate - its not about slagging
matches (which is what "trolling," stoops down to).

We don't have to necessarily share or even accept
another's beliefs, practices and habits, we simply
have to make a positive and cordial effort to
understand them. It's called "toleration."
And take part in discussions by presenting counter-
arguments, facts, et cetera, not personal attacks,
labelling, or insults.

I don't think that's being unreasonable - or part of
a "club," or some (perish the thought), "conspiracy."

Anyway, as I've said to you in a previous post -
You're most welcome to join in. Not just snipe from
the sidelines.

Cheers.

Houellebecq:"passive aggressive behaviour"

Spot on. It's a very female thing. The only males welcome are lapdogs.

KMB
I am a progressive too! If it helps I am an airetic progressive!
Houellebecq
My friend you know better than me, why I am against the censors, opened or covered censors.
In really I want the creation of an association from forum members to protect their rights, to protect them from any kind of descrimination.
For me there is not left or right democracy, the democracy apply to all people, to all individuals and it is totaly independant from people's ideas, status, etc.
I do not feel very proud to speak how or why to limit member's rights when their rights had to be fully protected and out from any kind of discusions.
We are going to convert the forum to an old days classroom where the teachers speak and pupil only listen. The forum, is not a classroom and we are not pupil who have to agree with other members from the forum.
Every member from the forum CAN DECIDE ALONE WHAT IS GOOD OR WHAT IS BAD, every member from the forum will choose alone the way he/she think is the best way to promote his/her ideas. It is our weakness if we do not convince a member that an other behave could be more usefull for every one.
The creation of trolls, of monsters to censor the forum, or the threat to censor the forum in the name of the trolls is a sign of weakness, a sign that soon o later we will have huge problems.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Dear Antiseptic,

Now you're "baiting," aren't you?

Folks, this is a perfect example -of
when not to respond.

Otherwise it could drag this thread down
to another level.