money is created in the fed and ends up in the fed

ok the fed orders the mint to print it, but the order comes from the fed[and only the fed]

same with every dollar issued by the fed , gets returned to the fed[who then give you credit for the fed fiat]

its time people knew the fed doubled our money supply[funny when you realise at the same time howhard claims to have redeemed all the govt bonds[we presume],

dont we assume that getting rid of govt debt means govt got their bonds back?...lol

yeah ya think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mN31uXc-kE

ok
here is what the fed did with those fiats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK7fz2Gka5k&feature=related
the same all the feds do, to retain parity with each other's fiat currencies , but all are owned by the same cartel[globally]

its a great scam ,i should comment that houses are over priced but they retain the same value in gold[its only the fiat that goes up and up [ever more fiat to buy the same thing]

we feel great when we get a pay increase, but the reality is the same return is got for more money[the more we get the higher a fiat currency price we need to pay], but because wages dont keep pace that our fixed wages buy is ever less

see we arnt even given real inflation numbers, because we hear howhard claim medium/average wage, that gets scewed up because the elites wage increase cancells out the poverty working mans wage decrease

[so the average goes up [but the lower wage ever lower]but soon we will all be poor, then you might just open your ears and eyes to see the poor side of the coin

before they removed the copper coin it cost 5 cents in copper for a two cent piece[were our twenty cent piece still real silver [not cupro-nickle]it would be worth two bucks,

coin is the ONLT constitutionally legal tender[fiat paper is only legal because govt made it legal tender for all debt [but govt dont own it] the fed reserve banking cartel does

One Under God.What we have to do is create awareness.The first thing not to do is an Alex Jones and have Banksters under everyone's bed.Follow Ron Paul and argue from the high moral ground of the US Constitution.Audit the Fed and thus create awareness.

People in their present frame of mind even when presented with the evidence,will not believe that Obama is a puppet of the Banksters, since the reality after tolerating Bush is just too much to bare.

arjay we really dont have to do anything,in time the bankers excess is revealed all by itself, i do need to make a few corrections

blackwattle,quote>>..There was mention of the Islamic Bank..they do lend to customers interest free,goodness me something outside the greedy banks i find it quite refreshing.>>

ok they reportedly have no intrest but as i understand it they require a share of the proffits[but also share the losses],i understand israelies have much the same thing[despite the ursury thing comming from their religious texts

thing is they dont charge each other ursury,but can charge ursury to the goy[non jew]...thus rothchild was able to franchise out high intrest loans and take over the banking sysatem

>>Footnote:rest assured i am not a conspirator and i dont run with the crowd either.>> i didnt infur[or mean to infure any such thing]

arjay quote>>..house prices are over inflated.>>the price is what it is[the real problem is under supply [and govt tax deductability for investors, that advantages the investor[and disadvantages the rentor[then govt subsidy on rent;rent assistance compounds the issue

FIRST HOMEBUYERS>>being enticed into buying again with Kevin's enticement of $20,000.00.>>is yet another issue that compounds the issue[but far worse is the 20 billion subsidy for super that props up an inflated stovk market[the steady cash income inflates todays share prices[compounded by the fact the pension scemes dont hold the shares[see previous post]because they leverage

>>This is pure folly>> yep


>>as Glen Beck said,"I hope to God that you are wrong!">> he may have said it but the dude plays both sides...[i prefer alex jones,he may be over the top but consistant..[beck does too much self promoting but said the oppisite as well..thus when the tide goes in[or out]he puts up a clip to say i told you so...lol

Ah, there is of course nothing like a good conspiracy theory,
to keep the masses occupied and off the streets :)

Never mind the fact that Reserve banks pay their profits back
to their treasuries, we'll just kind of conveniently forget all
that. Never mind, the sound reasons why they were set up in the
first place, ie to keep politicians honest and at arms length.

Yup, the poor must be being ripped off!

A couple of points. I gather that last year around 1 million
wide screens were sold in Australia, so people are not really
doing it tough, so to speak.

Secondly, if you really want to help the poor, so shut down
those pokies. For it is the poor who cannot help themselves
and throw billions of $ a year down those machines, not the rich.

2008 number[for all=feds]
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20090109a.htm
the only income recorded is from govt-securities[not the other trillions lent to national banks,on credit cards bankloans mortgauges and exchanged between other feds]LOL

besides howhard paid OFF the debt[thus in oz...NO GOVT SECURITIES GIVE ANY INCOME FROM THE FED[cause john claims to have paid them all off...lol]

now rudd has lent 40 billion the expected take is what?
how much loans did fed underwrite..[collect ursury on?..last year alone]

http://www.statusisfreedom.com/news/financial_crisis.htm
But,you already knew this

You will end up jobless,homeless and without the means to survive.

Wisdom is the principal thing;therefore get wisdom:
and with all your getting,get understanding.”
(Proverbs 4:7)

Quotes from Ayn Rand's,"Atlas Shrugged",1957
When you see that in order to produce,you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -

When you see that money is flowing to those who deal,not in goods,but in favors -

When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work,and your laws don’t protect you against them,but protect them against you -

When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice -

http://www.thinkfree.ca/images/13things.pdf

There's no way to rule innocent men.

The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.

Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.

One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens?What's there in that for anyone?

But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted-and you create a nation of law-breakers-and then you cash in on guilt.

Now,that's the system,that's the game,and once you understand it,you'll be much easier to deal with."

I don't want you to risk On the other hand,I cannot advise you to compromise with evil just to save your life.
http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2008/04/bushs-conspiracy-to-create-american_2077.html

For those of you who decide to take a stand,may the Holy Spirit comfort you in your persecution

http://www.usa-the-republic.com/mark%20of%20beast/toc.htm
http://www.jurisdictionary.com

If you want Justice, learn the Rules!
http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/index.html#procedure
UNDERSTANDING JURISDICTION

http://dor.wa.gov/Docs/Rules/draft/cr103_30_700_02.pdf

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=84.34.108

For those interested, two URLs from our own Reserve bank, showing
what happens to profits, when and how they are paid back to
treasury. So much for the fruitloop conspiracy theories.

http://www.rba.gov.au/PublicationsAndResearch/RBAAnnualReports/2005/Pdf/earnings_distribution.pdf

That one is clearer about amounts paid each year etc.

http://www.rba.gov.au/PublicationsAndResearch/RBAAnnualReports/2003/Pdf/variability_of_reserve_bank_profits.pdf

That one is a little more complex, explaining the risk and losses
on foreign currency that the bank has to wear.