Forrest

"Trolldhaugen!"

I grip my sides from great mirth, and disappear in a burst of flatulence.

I think the pro-life crusaders could learn something from hyper-conservative propagandist P.J. O'Rourke:

"Take just one example of our unconserved tendency to poke our noses into other people's business: abortion. Democracy--be it howsoever conservative--is a manifestation of the will of the people. We may argue with the people as a man may argue with his wife, but in the end we must submit to the fact of being married. Get a pro-life friend drunk to the truth-telling stage and ask him what happens if his 14-year-old gets knocked up. What if it's rape? Some people truly have the courage of their convictions. I don't know if I'm one of them.

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If the citizenry insists that abortion remain legal--and, in a passive and conflicted way, the citizenry seems to be doing so--then give the issue a rest. ...The law cannot be made identical with morality. Scan the list of the Ten Commandments and see how many could be enforced even by Rudy Giuliani."

www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp

Brownwyn

My views on abortion are well known as you have pointed out. Contrary to what many may think, my intention is never to make those who have had abortions worse than what they must feel. Hopefully woman and those who have had abortions will find forgiveness in the only One who can forgive sin. My harsh comments are towards those who promote abortion as some sort of human or womens rights issue. The unborn baby has no rights. The same people who promote promiscuity then want to kill the fruit of their actions. It is sick.

What makes me even sicker than abortion itself is the 'progressives in the church'. I know that secularist often misrepresent God in order to hide their self righteousness but when people do it in the name of Christ it defies belief. They are nothing more than snakes who have no idea about God or His Son. They make Christ in their own image and will receive greater condemnation than most.

No-one is less qualified than you to accuse people of making Christ in their own image, runner. You're a living embodiment of Suzan B. Anthony's statement, "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."

CJMorgan
You falsely assume all pro-lifers are “godbotherers”. I am not.
http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html (Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League)

Fractelle
You falsely assume pro-lifers are “walking wounded with a grudge against women.” Does this include women who are against abortion? If so, how so?

Bronwyn,
You say “How on earth could we accommodate all those babies your anti-abortion website claims are being killed as we speak? Tell me what do you think the population would be? How many trillions of people would there be on the planet?” Why not use the same argument against medical interventions which save or prolong life?
You say “Do you think for a moment you'd be enjoying the lifestyle you do now?” Your comments reflect the reality that abortion is largely a lifestyle choice. Is it valid to put greater value on one’s own lifestyle than on another’s life?
You say “The last thing these women need is the pointing finger from people who've usually never had to confront these life and death decisions for themselves.” Pointing the finger must by definition come after the fact. Pro-lifers seek to prevent abortion, thereby sparing the woman from being “haunted by her decision for the rest of her life”. Who could object to that?
You assume that pro-lifers have never been “confront(ed by) these life and death decisions for themselves”. What of those who have confronted the decision, chosen life and later realised the magnitude of their decision in the context of the love for their child?
With the benefit of this sort of hindsight it is difficult for some to trivialise the abortion issue as do those who seem to be arguing that those against abortion have no right to express their opinions on this forum.
I have more respect for those pro-abortionists such as Camille Paglia who “have always frankly admitted abortion is murder, the extermination of the powerless by the powerful.”
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/print.html

Ah Forrest, LOL, you had me gripping my sides as well.

Yes, we might be silly billygoats and too quick to clamber aboard the Hotairbus at times, but at least we can still have a laugh at our own expense.

Runner, you should try it sometime.