Further, I personally find it shameful to hear these shriekers of the catch cry "welfare bludgers" etc when in reality, some of you clearly have got little idea what a society without

SOCIAL SECURITY

is like. The Indos for example are a great one for it with their prinsep (principal) of "cari sendiri"

(search individually - search by yourself - search for $ by yourself)

and it leads to situations where well, if u can't sell your house or rice field to the local "baron" in order to pay the $ grubbers at the hospital when yr crook, then you die. Yes, emporor nasi goreng and too many rabbits.

And not to overly digress but U know where they go then don't U. Straight into the Loving arms of the hard liners. (and this is of course just the tip of the ice berg)

So, I ask you, given their airports don't make the grade and neither do their maintenance routines as a collective, and yes whilst I am not an expert I did earn an UnRestricted Private Pilot's License at Bankstown, why is that Garuda gets multi daily flights in and out of Bali/Oz but QANTAS no longer bothers and JetStar/Virgin only get a couple of flights a week? So, before you start running off at the mouth about $ haemoraging on pensioners, I would suggest ...

VOTE 1 - Green Browny for PreZ

One of the oldest tricks in the book of Noddy control is to tell the poor white australian "trash" that the blakfellas are going to get more than them on better conditions, and watch u all fall upon one another and run about frothing at the mouth and nashing your teeth.

And well, spiritually speaking, until such a time as other wise,

"Our Lord Satan's Will be done."

Holy, Holy, Holy
Thank __ck the BlakFellas aren't pommies or fundies or faerie folk.

rechtub, is it not clear this thread is evidence I am not one eyed?
Dream on, how many blaks did I kill? or take land from?
IF we look at those you highlight living over seas what percentage are they in this 69.000?
Emotional words but as useless as udders on a bull.
NO ONE none of us, has said over seas pensions should stop, in fact if we stop waste in welfare we can give a living pension to EVERY one.
The was to help this country, to be spent here, to both give back to them and our economy.
Foxy yes you are right but the game played in Parliament will never change, did you see Costello?
Yesterday Obama, a great and historic leader complemented Rudd on his actions in stimulating our economy.
Rudd still leads the polls, by enough to increase his majority and wound conservatives for years to come.
We should remember that, the voices raised here are minority ones.
unions and the slander shown here are nothing to do with the thread, just a weak unfocused way insult me rather than debate the issue.
one eyed unionists rechtub? give me some insights into the wrongs of your mob.

NO ONE none of us, has said over seas pensions should stop, in fact if we stop waste in welfare we can give a living pension to EVERY one.
Yee Haa, woudn't that be great. Just what I have been wishing for for years, bring it on!

By the way, at no time did I say that OS persions should stop, in fact, if you had opened your mind you would have noticed that I agreed with you that only pensioners living here should receive the cash splash.

Yesterday Obama, a great and historic leader
You're kidding, he hasn't even worn the plastic coating off his chair yet, how can you call him a 'great' leader, historic yes, but this is only due to his color, nothing more. For the record, I would have voted for him if I was given the chance but let him prove himself hey.

re read my last post rechtub, clearly I said no one had said over seas pensions should stop so what is your issue?
Yes I noted you agreed with me on that point is it not true most would?
I did start the thread to question insanity sending it was bad, defending it shameful.
I expect better from my team but worse from this foolish lady, she has form for getting it wrong.

Why shouldnt the overseas Australians not get the $9oo odd dollars?

So its ok if someone gets the money here then leaves for a an overseas destination?
Did those o'seas Aussies not work hard to serve the country and contribute ?
How about holding it for them till they returned?Would that make you whingers any happier?

socratease

What do you mean till they return?
Before you put your paddle in the water understanding of the issue would help.
In country's all over the world, we pay pensions to those who live over seas, some returned home, past story's say and live very well on better pensions that others in those country's.
We have people here who get over seas pensions or part there of.
Few are planning to return, few ever do.
So maybe you need to re think your blast, it miss fired.
STIMULUS an agreed amount given with the hope and intention it will be spent, soon, here in Australia.
This country is the one we want to stimulate.
In fact we gave this money away, took it out of our economy.
I still want to know why?
no intent to question over seas pensioners just common sense why?