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The two positions still don't meet anywhere practical.

Having children is still a choice, not a legal requirement.

What seems to be emerging here is resentment, that it is still predominantly women who are required to give birth, and that the entire process is time-consuming and generally interrupts any career.

Further resentment, of course, in that those women who choose not to take this path, actually do quite well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145973/How-paid-men-Stay-single.html

"Ruth Lea, adviser to the Arbuthnot Banking Group, said: 'It is a matter of choice. People earn the same until they get together, and then they make choices about work, family and lifestyle. That is what adults are expected to do - make decisions."

This has nothing to do with legislatures, it is about society, as TZ52HX points out:

>>Until the values of our society change, women will NOT possess equal business opportunity.<<

Values are not legislated. Laws follow value changes, they don't create them.

And whistler, these are just titles, not ideas:

>>that would be the business of a Conference hosted by the Federal Parliament comprising a Women's Caucus in the Senate and a Men's Caucus in the House of Representatives.<<

How would these Caucuses, whatever they may be, come about, and what authority would they have?

>>what's your view, how would you elect a legislature of your own gender?<<

Hey, this is your idea, not mine. You figure it out.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 5:36:32 AM
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Pericles:"What seems to be emerging here is resentment, that it is still predominantly women who are required to give birth, and that the entire process is time-consuming and generally interrupts any career."

My advice to any woman who feels that way is "don't have kids". I would say the same to any man who feels the same.

However, if people want children, a uterus is required and that is the exclusive possession of women. It is a bit much to, on the one hand claim special consideration for carrying the uterus and on the other claim discrimination because the use of it precludes doing something else one might wish to. Many women regard the child, once the uterus has been used, as fair compensation for the inconvenience. Those that don't should consider hysterectomies.

Men are not given the option.

To use an analogy, deep-sea "saturation" divers have to spend sometimes several weeks in pressure chambers while they are not at the bottom of the ocean. They cannot leave the chamber or they will die. They regard the money they are paid as fair compensation for the inconvenience. Those that don't should consider different work.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 5:52:17 AM
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Yabby, in a constitutional democracy, the people elect legislatures to supervise their activites.
accountability is subject to the electoral process.
absent provision for women's legislatures, men's legislatures, which allow women entry under male supervision, supervise the people, thus all women remain under male supervision.

whether a female Governor-General, under male supervision in an office intended according to the Constitution of Australia at its enactment be held exclusively by men, sacks a female Prime Minister, again under male supervision in an office intended according to the Constitution of Australia at its enactment be held exclusively by men, the Governor-General, the Prime Minister, the people and even the Queen, post Magna Carta, who acts upon the advice of men's legislatures, remain under male supervision.

the Constitution acknowledges these offices and is the governing arbiter.

absent provision for women's legislatures, women are not free to take on any of these offices in their own right.

yes TZ52HX, if men didn't have to supervise women they'd spend more time rearing their families.

Pericles, the British Parliament enacted the values of sexism and inequity when enabling the Australian Constitution, thus Australia is a sexist and inequitable society.

The Australian Parliament legislated to relieve values enacted by the British Parliament with the Commonwealth Franchise Act 1902, a process which will mature with the enactment of constitutional reform to accommodate equitable legislaures.

if you have no view as to how your gender's legislatures should be elected the default position is how Australia's men's legislatures are currently elected.

yes Antiseptic, men are incompetent to supervise women.
Posted by whistler, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 10:13:46 AM
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Just a thought, whistler.

>>a female Governor-General, under male supervision<<

Doesn't she report to the Queen?

There's little point in continuing to say the same thing over and over, so I think this is where I take my leave.

Have a nice day.

And, if it is permissible in your strange little world, have a nice life too.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 10:55:30 AM
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Our forum misogynist Antiseptic, once again showing his misogyny wrote, "if people want children a uterus is required and that is the exclusive possession of women".

The misogynist Antiseptic doesn't seem to be aware that "sperm" is also required, and that sperm is the exclusive possession of men.

Not too bright is our little forum misogynist.
Posted by TZ52HX, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 12:40:08 PM
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TZ53HX:""sperm" is also required"

I see you've been doing some research.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 12:54:45 PM
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