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*produced weak government which oversaw the collapse of the global economy by a male dominated industry.*

Sorry, that was simply not the case, but a Govt for which women
voted, with a certain ideology, with which they must have agreed, or
would not have voted for it. Cheney made it clear that the US Dollar
was not America's problem, but the rest of the world's problem.
Business should regulate itself, they were going to find Osama
under the bed, was another Govt policy. Women were part of that
Govt, apart from electing it. They are as much to blame as men,
so forget your gender based discrimination.

*individual bargaining between women and men is a recipe for disaster.*

But Govt is not about individual bargaining, its about achieving
agreement by at least 51%. Both women and men have an input.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 1 March 2009 1:50:28 PM
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"women voted" for candidates to legislatures, prescribed at law as men's legislatures,
in which women participate under male supervision.
the global economic collapse is a tipping point.
more of the same,
or provision for women's legislatures.

> Govt is not about individual bargaining

exactly
Posted by whistler, Sunday, 1 March 2009 9:30:00 PM
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*prescribed at law as men's legislatures,*

so untwist your knickers Whistler, call them
peoples legislatures. Men and women right now
in effect have exactly the same rights.

Your real problem is that you think that women
know better then men, but you have not a scrap
of evidence to show that is the case.

As the evidence shows, there are smart men, smart
women, dumb men, dumb women.

Electors are free to choose on merit, not based
on who owns which sexual organs.

If women were convinced of your case, they would
vote for women candidates. Clearly a great many
women simply do not agree with you.

So dream on Whistler, or whistle on Whistler :)
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 1 March 2009 9:46:35 PM
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whistler, you never answered my questions.

The reason I asked them is that I think, from looking at your silly website, you're a bloke with a chip on his shoulder about women.

Not only that, you seem to harbour a romanticised and ethnographically inaccurate perception of traditional Australian Aboriginal societies wherein women and men were generally equal in status, by virtue of separate religio-judicial domains.

While it's true that such separation of social domains afford a degree of gender autonomy, ultimately all traditional Aboriginal societies wereand are patriarchal, with groups of men effectively exchanging women according to very strict rules of kinship and affiliation.

Of course, these longstanding gender power relations have mostly fallen completely apart over the last century or two.

As a former anthropologist, I'm not aware of any ethnographic examples of the kind of gender apartheid that you seem to be promoting.

Unless of course it's all a product of your imagination.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 1 March 2009 9:56:38 PM
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more of the same , Yabby?
more weak, indecisive government,
more individual bargaining,
more unsustainablity,
more self-inflicted pain,
more recessions, depressions, economic rollercoasters,
more confusion, terror, warfare,
more Australian deaths on the world's battlefields,
more denial of history,
more pretending legislatures enacted exclusively by men are peoples legislatures,
more refusing women the right to their own legislatures,
more job losses,
more superannuation fund closures,
more climate catastrophe,
more scapegoating women, shirking responsibility, cowardice and obfuscation,
more imputation about women's election of candidates to men's legislatures,
more of your groundless assertion smart government favours women over men,
more endemic sexism, racism, discrimination against the aged and infirm,
more greed, compacency, irresponsibility,
more smut,
more slippery slope to oblivion?
no thanks.
dumb government is for dumb people, not Australians.

CJ Morgan, gender apartheid is the policy of a constitution which mandates men's legislatures and not women's legislatures.

> ultimately all traditional Aboriginal societies were and are patriarchal

no. Dianne Bell [1983] Daughters of the Dreaming, found otherwise.
male anthropoligists who collected evidence of patriarchy were never told about women's law because it was none of their business. nothing has changed in that regard.

are you familiar with HC "Nugget" Coombs?
i once read he said that whilst Australia's indigenous peoples exhibit enormous variety, the one commonality he observed was the ubiquitous maintenance of the practice of women's business and men's business.
i ask because i'd like to find the source.
Posted by whistler, Monday, 2 March 2009 6:22:44 PM
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Gee whizz Whistler, if you think that things are so bad,
you had better grab your fishing rod and head for
Iceland after all!
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 2 March 2009 8:16:09 PM
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