I agree with Col and Sancho too, people have a right to show them

There's plenty of overlap between the anti-choice and pro-filtering mobs. For the pro-filtering mob to have one of their own blacklisted must be quite annoying for them.

It will only get worse for them if they get their way with filtering and have to watch their language if they want to remain accessible.

Pro-filtering people at the Australian Women's Forum and their friends need to take note. If the rest of us can't access this stuff, neither can they.

And Conroy says filtering is not political. Rubbish.

I agree with Col, et al.

runner displays another post lacking understanding for any views that aren't his own.
Col's comparison with heart surgery was quite apt.
Of course, you never actually explain yourself do you runner? You just state cheap shots and hysterics about murder, without addressing the complexities of the matter. I don't know whether it's because you're so emotionally invested, just plain incompetent or contemptuous of your debating opponents.
Don't be surprised however, when such evident contempt is returned to you or when people consider your constant displays of hatred and disrespect for other opinions, to be very different to what we're told peaceful ideals of Christianity are.
Before you respond, realise that I respect some anti-abortion posters who show a degree of respect and understanding for different opinions - a prerequisite for posting on an 'opinion' site.
You however, don't.

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I fear Senator Conroy isn't up to this task.
In a November interview, it was startling to see how inept his responses were. I felt both embarrassed for him, and horrified.

http://www.abc.net.au/insidebusiness/content/2007/s2433493.htm

To summarise -

Interviewer: You've been told that 12mbps for 4.7 billion is impossible. Are you still holding on to that?

Conroy: It's an election commitment. The panel will look at the proposals.

Interviewer: But you're not going to get that. Will you compromise?

Conroy: Election commitment. 98 per cent coverage to homes and businesses. Election commitment.

Interviewer: Telstra is saying their bid isn't a bid, it's a proposal. Are you considering it as a bid?

Conroy: The expert panel's role.

Interviewer: Are you accepting it as a bid?

Conroy: It's been received by the panel.

Effectively, Conroy wouldn't admit that it was a bid even though it looked like a bid, smelled like a bid and basically was a bid. (It was later rejected because of politics, but it's idiocy to ask another provider to do this because Telstra holds all the infrastructure so of course, expect more costs).
He also could only parrot the line 'election commitment' in the face of technical impossibilities.

All in all, a very poor performance.

TRTL

It is nice to know that you show some respect to posters who are happy to sanitize the killing of the unborn. I am sure it makes you feel a lot more inclusive. It does not change the simple fact that abortion is legalized murder. Your assertion that I 'hate' is very presumptuous. I actually prefer people to be straight then to beat around the bush pretending to accommodate a range of views. The view that killing the unborn is okay is abhorrent to me just as my view is abhorrent to those who believe it is the woman's choice to murder her baby or not.

It's not that simple, runner.

Can you tell me the precise point it becomes a 'baby' that is being murdered? Is it indeed conception?
Is that point in time so very different to half a second before, when we were dealing with sperm and egg?
Can you understand that others see this differently?

Is it then, the split second when the sperm touches the egg? A second later, when the sperm is inside the egg?

Is the morning after pill also an evil?

Why does this egg, incapable of anything yet, qualify to you as a human being?

Especially considering the issues of rape, or further still, the difficulties such policies create for the already living in the overpopulated third world?

Nobody's suggesting killing already living people - the issue is, and always has been, at what point it becomes a human life. Here is the fundamental disagreement.

Thus, your emotive howls about murder fall on deaf ears, because others don't regard conception as the point that life begins.

Do you have the same complex about masturbation? Do you regard that as murder too?

Until you give non-religious reasons for your decision that conception is where we're dealing with a human life, then you're just being an ass, because you're not engaging the topic at all, you're just howling. You never discuss it intelligently, you just dismiss things without consideration.

On an opinion site, that's one of the cardinal sins. I can admit I don't have all the answers as to precisely when life begins, but I'm willing to discuss them with people like a rational adult, and I can see the outcomes of anti-abortion policy.

The only difference is runner, some people are able to discuss this like adults. You evidently, can't. So yes, I am able to satisfy myself that I'm willing to discuss the issues like an adult.

Grow up.

I believe it is murder too, I just accept that people need to abort at times, I don't think you can pin a moment down like that you know..