David Hicks. The fact that individuals like Iluvatar compare the actions of the Australian Government to the SS highlights the credibility of people on this bandwagon! I've been to the concentration camps in Poland mate and frankly you need to get away from your computer terminal and see the world rather than make these kind of bizarre rants.

Yep. I think your "learned" sources are wrong too. David Hicks is not your average civilian criminal. He was involved in something which is and always will be a threat to all humanity. As far as I'm concerned, Mr. Hicks can rot to death in Gitmo. Civilized, lawful proceedings do not, in my view, apply to him or his associates. Had I been the one who caught him at his little games, I would have popped him.

I do not think that my civil liberties have been compromised, either. Have yours - really?

Your opinions are undoubtedly as strong as mine, so there is probably little point in discussing the issue further.

Cheers,
Leigh

Got to agree with Leigh, Hicks got himself into this mess and he should think himself lucky.
In previous times he would have been shot out of hand.
What ! No uniform, no paybook and no serial number ?
He is not a soldier, he must be a spy, BANG !
They would have been justified in shooting him.

He was I gather in a group that surrendered when under fire.
Anyone in uniform and with a paybook and serial number would have been
subject to detention until the cessation of hostilities.
Soldiers in that situation can rely on the protection of the Red Cross.
Any other armed person can expect to be shot.

Leigh,

What a callous thing to say about David Hicks..remind me not to cross you.

I for one actually strongly believe my civil liberties have been severely diminished by Howard and his cronies.

Look around you....open your eyes and ears.
Illuvatar is not nearly as far out of left field as you think.

No time to go to sleep.

BAZZ,

Actually, no-one would have been afforded the protection of the Red Cross in Iraq, since the US has proclaimed that invasion beyond the jurisdiction of the Geneva Convention.

Hence their need to set up their unconstitutional military tribunals. Otherwise all of the detainees that were held in Guantanamo Bay could have easily been tried at an internationally recognised war-crimes tribunal.

Q.E.D.

Leigh,

I see you act as judge of David Hicks before he has faced any rightly established court of law. Please do not plead to me for justice if you ever have need of defence. You may just get what you would impose on others.