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Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Friday, 9 January 2009 3:25:01 PM
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Dear David,
Oooops. No, I admit I didn't notice their religious affiliations. And that may place a different slant on things altogether, as you suggest. I'll have to go back and have a closer look - and see whether there is any kind of balance there. As well as the backgrounds of all the panel members. Thanks. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 9 January 2009 4:40:04 PM
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Dear David,
I've spent ages scrawling the background of Gary Bouma, Desmond Cahill, Tom Calma, and Dr Hass Dellal. I've read the articles by Gary Bouma on Online Opinion, (a few years back), and I have to admit that his being pro - legal action for 'vilification,' is causing me some unease. I'd have to know more about his convictions in this area. Tom Calma, is another one whose stands on certain issues don't sit too well with me. He's another question mark. Desmond Cahill and Dr Hass Dellal seem very qalified. So, perhaps two out of two - balances out? Anyway, I think I'll wait until the final report comes out in 2010, before I say any more. I don't want to pre-judge things ahead of time. In reference to HREOC... I thought they were re-named the Australian Human Rights Commission in 2003? Posted by Foxy, Friday, 9 January 2009 6:05:03 PM
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Foxy,
Here is a little more information about Desmond Cahill and Dr Hass Dellal. "Desmond Cahill, Professor of Intercultural Studies at RMIT University, is one of Australia’s leading social researchers. In 2006, he was made an honorary fellow of the Australian Council of Educational Leaders for his work in immigrant, cross-cultural, interfaith and international education. He currently chairs the Religions for Peace (Australia), and represents Australia on the Asian Conference of Religion and Peace (ACRP). He led Melbourne’s successful bid to stage the forthcoming Parliament of the World’s Religions, the world’s largest interfaith gathering, and is now its honorary Program Director. He is a member of APRO and of the Victoria Police Multifaith Advisory Council." http://www.hreoc.gov.au/frb/frb_2008.html "Dr Hass Dellal was appointed Executive Director of the AMF (Australian Multi-faith Organisation) in 1989, an organisation established to promote a strong commitment to Australia as one people drawn from many cultures. Dr Dellal has had extensive experience throughout Australia and internationally on multicultural affairs. He serves on a number of committees and boards and has prepared numerous reports, programs and conferences that deal in community relations, community capacity building, business, polices relations, youth issues, access and equity, cultural and religious diversity, skill recognition, cross cultural training, second language development, philanthropy, and the arts as well as research for policy development on behalf of government, community and private sector." http://www.australiaday.vic.gov.au/events_ambassadors_details.asp?view=377 Now the question jumping off the page, is where are the secular panellists to make for fairness? This combination does not bode well for a just outcome for all Australians. David Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Friday, 9 January 2009 7:16:59 PM
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Polycarp,
I am quoting verbatim from Fair play and civility in interreligious relations by Gary Bouma posted on this forum 21/01/05: http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=2932 I find it disturbing that the person responsible for the above article will have significant input into laws governing the rest of us into perpetuity. Bronwyn, Vilification: To belittle through speech; to put down source: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vilify You have called me a fear-mongerer, disingenuous, an hysterical overstater and a henny penny ranter. I’m coming over to your side. Perhaps we do need laws to enforce civil discourse. Posted by KMB, Friday, 9 January 2009 8:11:47 PM
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Foxy,
I have made a mistake. "Dr Hass Dellal was appointed Executive Director of the AMF (Australian Multi-faith Organisation) in 1989." I inserted (Australian Multi-faith Organisation) for ease of understanding the AMF acronym as I assumed that is what it stood for. It should read (Australian Multicultural Organisation) My sincere apologies for misleading you and other readers. At this stage, Dr Hass Dellaj’s religious affiliation or not is unknown to me. David Posted by Atheist Foundation of Australia Inc, Friday, 9 January 2009 8:12:46 PM
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HREOC stands for Human Rights and Equal Opportunity.
Did you see mentioned in the accompanying blurb anything about Freedom ‘from’ Religion? If not, why not? Freedom ‘of’ Religion is only about the rights of the religious. I am not saying they do not need rights but those rights should be equal to the rights of everyone, not greater than.
And do you realise either three or four of the panellists have serious religious affiliations.
It may pay readers to investigate the AFA submission and those from other secular groups to get an idea on why the outcome of the Commission’s inquiry may not yield equality for all.
David