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My Predictions for 2009

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Yes Romany has lead the debate in this threads posts that are unbeatable.
And I think I see the scars of some hard times in her posts.
Let us not ever forget such times have not been around for many of us for a while, but never gone for others.
Cuphandle 20% rise in GST?
Come freind never!
We are in the hardest of times, for some, they will only find that out themselves this and the next year.
But others will prosper, build great fortunes, by having the cash to buy at basement prices.
We should be in a deep depression, the world not just us.
Like young newly weds who undervalued money in an afford to keep up with standards they can never pay for ever.
The world money markets went mad.
But the difference western security demands we rebuild our economy's.
We will.
In my childhood we ate bread and dripping, if we had it, some may go to those levels again but I think not.
By years end we will know if cuphandle is right or me, a share revival will be here in this month next year maybe 6 months before.
Much of the crisis is being paid for by people who did not bring it about , my 14.9 superannuation loss for one.
those who thought debt was a way to a better life will suffer but we will be ok.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 January 2009 3:03:28 PM
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Col,

We are free to see what we want to see and believe what we want to believe but as Johann von Goethe said - "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free".
Posted by wobbles, Saturday, 3 January 2009 12:10:59 AM
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Hi.The things which you have said as a predictions of 2009 are
the past of 2008 and the are still continuing in year 2009.Hope it will end very soon an the year 2009 just eradicate these issues.

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Posted by NashG, Saturday, 3 January 2009 3:48:56 PM
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Wobbles "None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free".

And like Lenin said, “where there is freedom there will be no state and where there is the state, there will be no freedom”

Such views are wrong.

Those who are least free are the ones who sold out their individuality to a belief that government would do something for them. They sold their individuality to the state, supposedly for an easy, safe, secure and predictable life.

Personally, I prefer to be free to live my life as I see fit, accept the risks, the ups and downs, to speculate how much I will earn next year and how I will spend it and not in accordance with some government plan for mediocrity.

So wobbles there is one undying truth which you a (suppose its too late for Johann) should understand -

You will get nothing from government which you could not get sooner and with less effort through your own efforts and endeavours. But you are not alone, lots of other fools think similar to you.

- And Johann von Goethe, isn’t he the fella who also said

“I have given up the search for truth and am now just looking for a reasonably adequate fantasy”?
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 4 January 2009 12:00:06 PM
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Col, while we're on about Goethe, I believe the opening lines from Faust were "a man sees in the world what he carries in his heart."

Given that many seem to be feeling in their heart that we're in for doom and gloom, that's probably the kind of year they'll have.
From a philosophical level I can only concur with Romany's posts. Ultimately, Australians will survive, even if they see hard times.

There will be some in the world who don't, crisis or no crisis. So before we begin wailing, lets take stock for a moment.
I know it's cliched, but when we look beyond our borders for even a little while, we see that other parts of the world won't be able to feel the crisis, not because they're insulated, but because things have been grim for so long that it could scarcely get worse. Think of what things are like in Zimbabwe and Sudan.

However, in terms of the economic crunch, the people I feel for are those in the recently developing economies of India and China. Recently an atmosphere of hope reigned, but as the crunch hits, the governments of those countries will give employers free reign to treat employees how they wish (and it was already pretty loose) in order to attempt to continue this growth pattern.

For all this, I feel somewhat sanguine.
By the standards of some places, I don't have a huge amount to lose. By the standards of others, I have more than my share of material possessions.
I mightn't be rich in money, but I'm rich in experiences and I've always been able to stand on my own two feet.
I don't fear the unknown as many do, usually I seek it out.
Each day I see others who struggle to achieve what comes easily to me, so I can only look to the future with optimism tempered with a little caution.

Ultimately, things will continue. As Romany points out, the sun will continue to rise. Children will continue to laugh and naysayers will always warn of impending doom.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 4 January 2009 10:35:47 PM
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TLTR “while we're on about Goethe,” –

You should probably address your comments to wobbles, he is the one who brought the fella into conversation

“Given that many seem to be feeling in their heart that we're in for doom and gloom, that's probably the kind of year they'll have.”

Speaking personally, I am looking forward to a very good 2009. The doom and gloom was dispelled for me because of actions I undertook in 2008.

Mind you being told I could not get at my superfund monies, even if I wanted to, was largely beyond my control but I do not let what is beyond my control drive me.

I seek no help or handouts from government (but will not turn them down, the bastards have taxed me enough in the past). I see no point in paying tax only to be the favoured beneficiary of socialism’s acts of rank bungling patronage, I would rather not pay the tax in the first place.

I could see myself echoing your words –

“I mightn't be rich in money, but I'm rich in experiences and I've always been able to stand on my own two feet.
I don't fear the unknown as many do, usually I seek it out.”

My only annoyance is it seems those who lack the wit to think about the consequences of their actions and plan for any future seem to be the major beneficiaries of the “leveler politics” where we, the ones with foresight and acumen are unfairly burdened for our prudence.

Anyway, pleased to hear you have your hand on the tiller of your own destiny :-) better to trust ones own judgment than the shilly-shally of talk-is-cheap politicians.
Posted by Col Rouge, Monday, 5 January 2009 7:27:35 AM
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