Steel Mann...just warning folks about you.

In 26years as a born again christian and having been to many christian churches, I never seen anyone with such loose doctrine as yourself.
You support immorality, where other christians flee from it.

Ive never met or heard of a christian supporting nudism or giving way to support of gays in committed christian churches.
e.g. Venn-Brown walked away from the AOG churches because he wanted to remain a gay and the Bible says we must repent of it...yet you support him.
Its common knowledge what he became. His site is humanism with complaints against the AOG church.

Its because of all of this that I think your either a spy for an antichrist group...or extremely bitter about christians and as a result, extremely cunning about your attacks on Bible doctrine.

I dont believe anything you say, about anything thats to do with christians and/or the churches.
I think youre a danger to other christians here and what they preach and if that offends you... tell Graham Young.

I wont communicate with someone, I see, who is clearly unscriptural... who appears to be a very cunning agent for 'the other side'.

Further more you seem fixated with me.

I went through your USERS thread file and my name pops up all over the place.
You cant stay away from me.
One of your earlier threads I recall revealed that you came STRAIGHT off the internet to OLO looking for me.
Its as if you were hunting me before you got here.
Thats pretty weird.

Gibo,

I've put some comments on your thread about caning. Please read them if you haven't already.

In the last couple of months Gibo, I've been learning to understand you and respect your views even when I don't agree. Please don't undo all this by accusing me of being a spy for an anti-Christ group, because I'm not. It's when we get threads like this one where we do oppose each other. I'm not a person who supports immorality, in fact quite the opposite. I am currently reading Anthony Venn-Brown's book. I haven't read enough of it yet to give an opinion of him. I think it's important to know the other side of the story. I've said it before Gibo, and I'll say it again, the nudist lifestyle is not sexual, at least, not the type of nudism I participate in. If you search the Web you will find a number of Christian nudist groups, however, I don't necessarily agree with them all. I do find you legalistic, Gibo, and that is the main issue that I have with you as I am totally opposed to legalism. I've put up with plenty of that in my life and I now desire the freedom that Christ has given me.

Gibo
"Separating "porn" from "kiddie porn"?

There isnt any separation for the two... when it comes to the moral decline of a civilisation.”

There is, as far as the statute books are concerned and for me, it is the law which matters, not your personal opinion.

“It maybe that its not illegal to view adult porn... but it sure is morally wrong to partake of the filth when the filth comes down to doing little other than inspiring criminal activity and letchery and disrespect towards women.”

The evidence of inspiring criminal activity has not been proven and in fact I recall posting of a link to some Dutch research which resolved the opposite were true.

We are each entitled to be as lecherous as we wish, lechery is not a criminal offence.

We are all entitled to be as disrespectful as we wish

And on that point

Do you not consider yourself “disrespectful” of the rights of other adults to decide for themselves, rather than pretend you have a monopoly on the definition of ‘righteousness’ and morality?

“A nobler age when men knew the difference between right and wrong... sure is passing.”

On a legal basis, adult pornography whilst it may not be necessarily considered ‘right’ is not ‘wrong’ either
And I suppose that ‘nobler age’ was when eugenics was still considered a ‘science’.

To your later posts
“It is, if it stirs up the same feelings inside people as material porn...and it will.”

And provided I satisfy those ‘feelings’ with another ‘consenting adult’ what has it got to do with you?

I do not claim or even give the pretense to being a born again Christian, I do however hold true to my moral values.

As far as my moral values are concerned, what occurs between consenting adults is strictly between them and their God.

If they like to ‘spice up’ their sex life up by viewing, in any media format, what you might consider ‘pornography’, then they as adults, are mature enough and free to make that choice, just as you are free to make yours.