funny how evolutionist can writes libraries of books but still can't come up with one plausible explanation for the beginnings. Why anyone should even listen to their fantasies beats me. Their dishonesty in failing to give any plausible answers knows no bounds. At least those who believe in creation admit that they have taken a reasoned step of faith (unlike the totally unreasoned step of faith taken by evolutionist). Evolutionist would have us believe that something comes from nothing which breaks every scientific law their ever was. One would have to be totally naive and ignore every scientific principle not to see design written all over the earth and mankind. How desperate man must be to deny his Creator in coming up with such rot!

In my youth I was if in Sydney drawn to the Domain, sprookers corner some called it.
I liked to read everything about Hide park corner in London too.
Every one who had an opinion about anything spoke in the Domain.
I stood and listen to most.
The net is a bit like that.
True it is a sprookers corner and the ideas are nearly the same.
My youth was my pre Christian stage, Hamburgers on good Friday just to prove I did not believe.
In that park and on the net extreme left views and Christianity drew the smallest crowds.
Yet had the most sprookers.
Those Monkeys poly could in time, write the story of yet another God.
Or maybe given time write about unions in a more flattering way.
I would set them a task, to unite all men, to develop understanding of how great life is.
And to teach us as we face death, we do not need props we have had heaven in our life, that it is both pain and joy trouble and peace.

Dear Polycarp,

On the subject of evolution, I'll keep it simple.

You were conceived, then you were born, you went to
school, and you became a man ... Then you were
David Boaz, and then became Polycarp. That is evolution.

Simple isn't it?

As for apes, chimps, et al, and what they can or can't
do - they are still going through the process.
But I'm sure that Jane Goodall could amaze you with what
they are capable of doing. Especially as far as using tools
is concerned, and the hunting and eating of larger animals.

Runner,

<<funny how evolutionist can writes libraries of books but still can't come up with one plausible explanation for the beginnings.>>

There are a few. They just don't know the finer details yet.

<<Why anyone should even listen to their fantasies beats me.>>

Because there's mountains of evidence to back them up. Everything in the natural word actually.

<<Their dishonesty in failing to give any plausible answers knows no bounds.>>

So it's "dishonest" to not be able to give a full explanation, is it?

That's some pretty screwed-up logic and reasoning there, Runner. No wonder you're religious.

For someone who pays so much lip-service to honesty, you sure have a difficult time practicing it. You continuously make false claims such as "All beliefs based on evolutionary teaching end up being fraudulent." (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2293#50229) Yet you can't give any examples when asked (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=49348).

That's dishonesty.

<<At least those who believe in creation admit that they have taken a reasoned step of faith...>>

There is no reason is believing in a magical being.

<<...unlike the totally unreasoned step of faith taken by evolutionist>>

It's not unreasonable if there's evidence behind it.

<<Evolutionist would have us believe that something comes from nothing which breaks every scientific law their ever was.>>

Which "evolutionists" would have you believe that?

<<One would have to be totally naive and ignore every scientific principle not to see design written all over the earth and mankind.>>

You mean like the the fossils, DNA and Geology and Geography that completely support an ancient Earth and evolution?

Oh, and complexity does not imply design. Complexity in design arises from either carelessness or necessity. And a God would not be careless, nor would it be necessary for them to make living organisms so complex.

<<How desperate man must be to deny his Creator in coming up with such rot!>>

I hate to break this to you, but DNA shows us that a God need not be involved in creating Humans. You see, when a man and a woman really, really love each other...

Oh stuff it! Go read "Where Did I Come From?"

Good grief polycarp.

This experiment has nothing to do with monkeys but with the notion of randomly striking a set of keys with the probability of anything intelligible being written whether it be monkeys or anything else.

The chances of this randomness actually producing a Hamlet manuscript is infinitesimal but it has nothing to do with evolution. Can you explain your reasoning? Evolution was not/is not an 'instant' event it takes years to evolve a language, culture, technology and for change to occur via natural selection - so I am not sure what you are trying to demonstrate.

As for the notion the idea that the theory of evolution is implausible - as opposed to what? The theory that there is a big God in the sky who made us in 7 days and that we all evolved from two people in varying colours, sizes and characteristics from such a limited gene pool. And acceptance that God exists without any evidence (only blind faith via mass indoctrination) is more plausible?

pelican if we discount the theories of beginnings associated with evolution the idea of a seven day creation which occurred some thousands of years ago is just one of many unlikely remaining stories to be considered as an alternative.

I have managed to find some resources with a number of stories of creation which are historically and culturally more relevant to Australia than David's middle eastern myth.

http://www.upfromaustralia.com/dreamabstoro.html
http://www.dreamtime.net.au/dreaming/storylist.htm
http://indigenousaustralia.frogandtoad.com.au/story.html

If I have to choose story of a beginning with a religious element then I'll have to go with those.

Robert